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Date:	Fri, 07 Dec 2007 20:25:28 +0100
From:	Rene Herman <>
To:	Alan Cox <>
CC:	Andi Kleen <>,
	"David P. Reed" <>,,
	Thomas Gleixner <>,
	Ingo Molnar <>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <>
Subject: Re: RFC: outb 0x80 in inb_p, outb_p harmful on some modern AMD64
 with MCP51 laptops

On 07-12-07 19:42, Alan Cox wrote:

> On Fri, 07 Dec 2007 19:45:25 +0100
> Rene Herman <> wrote:
>> On 07-12-07 18:19, Alan Cox wrote:
>>> On Fri, 7 Dec 2007 17:31:16 +0100
>>> Andi Kleen <> wrote:
>>>>> You don't need to. Port 0x80 historically is about 8uS so just udelay(8)
>>>>> and make sure the initial default delay is conservative enough before the
>>>> How would you make it conservative enough handling let's say a 6Ghz CPU
>>>> that can execute multiple jumps per cycle?
>>> Pick a sane worst case and go with it at boot. We don't have to be
>>> accurate before we tune udelay - over long in uSecs isnt going to hurt,
>>> and most post boot _p's can be replaced by udelay(8) now
>> Isn't 8 generally a bit overly long? I believe the norm is 1?
> 8uS is an ISA bus transaction.

You very likely know better but just in case you're confused -- I thought it 
was 8 cycles...


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