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Message-ID: <4766F1AE.4060601@keyaccess.nl>
Date:	Mon, 17 Dec 2007 23:01:18 +0100
From:	Rene Herman <rene.herman@...il.com>
To:	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>
CC:	Rene Herman <rene.herman@...il.com>,
	Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	"David P. Reed" <dpreed@...d.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>, Paul Rolland <rol@...917.net>,
	Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>,
	rol@...be.net
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86: provide a DMI based port 0x80 I/O delay override.

On 17-12-07 22:56, Ingo Molnar wrote:

> * Rene Herman <rene.herman@...il.com> wrote:
> 
>>>> Signed-off-by: Rene Herman <rene.herman@...il.com>
>>> hm, i see this as a step backwards from the pretty flexible patch 
>>> that David already tested. (and which also passed a few hundred 
>>> bootup tests on my x86 test-grid)
>> Please see Alan's comment that udelay (and none) shouldn't yet be 
>> provided as a choice. It opens race windows in drivers even when it 
>> works in practice on most setups. The version with "udelay" and "none" 
>> is not minimal, not low risk and certainly not .24 material.
> 
> huh? By default we still use port 0x80. Any udelay is non-default and 
> needs the user to explicitly switch to it.  But it enables us to debug
> any suspected drivers by asking testers to: "please try this driver with 
> io_delay=udelay, does it still work fine?". So those extra options are 
> quite sensible. If you have any real technical arguments against that 
> then please let us know.

Ingo, have lots of fun playing with yourself, but remove my sign off from 
anything with the udelay and none methods.

Rene.
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