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Message-ID: <20071222232922.GO8181@ftp.linux.org.uk>
Date:	Sat, 22 Dec 2007 23:29:22 +0000
From:	Al Viro <viro@....linux.org.uk>
To:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
Cc:	Theodore Tso <tytso@....edu>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@...stfloor.org>,
	Christoph Lameter <clameter@....com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@...llo.nl>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@...radead.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@...k.pl>
Subject: Re: Major regression on hackbench with SLUB (more numbers)

On Sat, Dec 22, 2007 at 09:50:09PM +0000, Al Viro wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 22, 2007 at 01:00:09PM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 
> > > Another problem with using /sys/slab is that it is downright *ugly*.
> > > Why is it for example, that /sys/slab/dentry is a symlink to
> > > ../slab/:a-0000160?
> > 
> > That's the only really ugly thing there. Otherwise, it's pretty nice, but 
> > having a million files makes for problems when trying to send somebody 
> > else the full info. 
> 
> *raised brows*
> 
> I would say that there's that really ugly thing with embedding kobject
> into a struct with the lifetime rules of its own and then having that
> struct kfree()d while kobject might still have references, but hey,
> maybe it's just me and my lack of appreciation of the glory that is
> sysfs.
> 
> 	Al, too tired of ranting about sysfs being a major architecture
> mistake and a recurring source of turds like that one...

BTW, the fact that presence of that kobject is conditional makes life even
uglier - we have to either kfree() or drop a reference to kobject leaving
actual kfree() to its ->release().   While we are at it, when do we remove
the symlinks?  That got to add even more fun for the lifetime rules...

Sigh...  How does one set a script that would mail a warning upon git pull
that introduces any instances of keyword from given set?  I hadn't noticed
that slub was using sysfs when it went into the tree back in May ;-/
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