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Date:	Sun, 23 Dec 2007 14:10:39 -0500
From:	Gene Heskett <gene.heskett@...il.com>
To:	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Morer verizon problems

Just for a heads up, for about the last 8 hours, verizon, my ISP, has been inserting themselves into the path between my gmail account and my local fetchmail of this email subcription at pop.gmail.com.

Worse yet they are bouncing the messages in a way that makes it look as if I
sent them when they in fact originated at vger.kernel.org.  Somehow they have 
convinced themselves that any mailing list this busy must be spam and is to be 
bounced.  Either that or they, verizon, since they sleep with M$, have taken a 
large under the table payment to screw with linux in any way they can.  It 
bears investigating.

I called just now and screamed bloody murder at tech support, and in about 15 
minutes I started getting the list again, BUT they are still in the path 
between vger and my fetchmail daemon as shown below.

Or at least that is how I am interpreting the incoming headers, which now look 
like this by the time they hit my inbox but with my SA headers clipped:
-----------------------
Received: from incoming.verizon.net [206.46.232.10]
        by coyote.coyote.den with POP3 (fetchmail-6.3.6)
        for <gene@...alhost> (single-drop); Thu, 20 Dec 2007 21:10:08 -0500 (EST)
 Received: from mailbag1.bizmailsrvcs.net ([172.18.12.131])
 by vms051.mailsrvcs.net
 (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr  3 2006))
 with ESMTP id <0JTD00L5XN9KBGD0@...051.mailsrvcs.net> for
 gene.heskett@...izon.net; Thu, 20 Dec 2007 20:08:11 -0600 (CST)
 Received: from [64.233.162.238] (port=3333 helo=nz-out-0506.google.com)
 by mailbag1.bizmailsrvcs.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68)
 (envelope-from <gene.heskett+caf_=gene.heskett=verizononline.net@...il.com>)
 id 1J5XG9-00052G-Du    for gene.heskett@...izononline.net; Thu,
 20 Dec 2007 20:05:09 -0600
 Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id x7so90741nzc.3 for
 <gene.heskett@...izononline.net>; Thu, 20 Dec 2007 18:08:08 -0800 (PST)
 Received: by 10.142.132.2 with SMTP id f2mr436687wfd.221.1198202887677; Thu,
 20 Dec 2007 18:08:07 -0800 (PST)
 Received: by 10.142.222.3 with SMTP id u3cs177296wfg; Thu,
 20 Dec 2007 18:08:07 -0800 (PST)
 Received: by 10.100.202.9 with SMTP id z9mr1420295anf.42.1198202883749; Thu,
 20 Dec 2007 18:08:03 -0800 (PST)
 Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.176.167])
 by mx.google.com with ESMTP id q26si917844ele.6.2007.12.20.18.07.38; Thu,
 20 Dec 2007 18:08:03 -0800 (PST)
 Received: (majordomo@...r.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand   id
 S1759056AbXLUCHP (ORCPT <rfc822;wyh817@...il.com> + 49 others); Thu,
 20 Dec 2007 21:07:15 -0500
 Received: (majordomo@...r.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1754373AbXLUB7V
 (ORCPT <rfc822;linux-kernel-outgoing>); Thu, 20 Dec 2007 20:59:21 -0500
 Received: from smtp.polymtl.ca
 ([132.207.4.11]:53375 "EHLO smtp.polymtl.ca"   rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK)
 by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP  id S1761264AbXLUB7M
 (ORCPT <rfc822;linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>); Thu, 20 Dec 2007 20:59:12 -0500
 Received: from dijkstra.casi.polymtl.ca
 (dijkstra.casi.polymtl.ca [132.207.72.10])     by smtp.polymtl.ca (8.13.8/8.13.8)
 with ESMTP id lBL1vVHB024689
 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu,
 20 Dec 2007 20:57:32 -0500
 Received: from compudj by dijkstra.casi.polymtl.ca with local (Exim 4.63)
 (envelope-from <mathieu.desnoyers@...ymtl.ca>) id 1J5X8g-00040X-Gt; Thu,
 20 Dec 2007 20:57:26 -0500
 Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 20:54:50 -0500
 From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@...ymtl.ca>
 Subject: [patch 12/24] Immediate Values - Architecture Independent Code
 X-Originating-IP: [172.18.12.131]
 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@...r.kernel.org
 To: akpm@...ux-foundation.org,
 Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>,
 linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
 Cc: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@...ymtl.ca>,
 Rusty Russell <rusty@...tcorp.com.au>
 Message-id: <20071221015726.253261266@...ymtl.ca>
 X-Forwarded-for: gene.heskett@...il.com gene.heskett@...izononline.net
 Content-disposition: inline;
 filename=immediate-values-architecture-independent-code.patch
 Precedence: bulk
 Delivered-to: gene.heskett@...il.com
 Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of
 linux-kernel-owner@...r.kernel.org designates 209.132.176.167 as permitted
 sender) client-ip=209.132.176.167;
 Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record
 for domain of linux-kernel-owner@...r.kernel.org designates 209.132.176.167 as
 permitted sender) smtp.mail=linux-kernel-owner@...r.kernel.org
 X-Forwarded-To: gene.heskett@...izononline.net
 X-Poly-FromMTA: (dijkstra.casi.polymtl.ca [132.207.72.10]) at Fri,
 21 Dec 2007 01:57:31 +0000
 References: <20071221015438.433195466@...ymtl.ca>
 X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
 List-Id: <linux-kernel.vger.kernel.org>
 User-Agent: quilt/0.46-1
 X-procmail: user=gene
 Status: RO
 X-Status: UC
 X-KMail-EncryptionState: 
 X-KMail-SignatureState: 
 X-KMail-MDN-Sent: 

Any mail experts here want to debunk my findings, jump right in, I'm not an
email guru, but it sure looks to me as if they are rerouting ANY port 25
access through their servers now.  And M$ would pay millions to screw us,
and has, its a matter of record.

-- 
Cheers, Gene
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Lo!  Men have become the tool of their tools.
		-- Henry David Thoreau
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