linux-kernel - Re: [Suspend2-users] [Suspend2-devel] Freezing filesystems (Was Re: What's in store for 2008 for TuxOnIce?)

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Message-ID: <477C069C.1060905@nigel.suspend2.net>
Date:	Thu, 03 Jan 2008 08:48:12 +1100
From:	Nigel Cunningham <nigel@...el.suspend2.net>
To:	"The place to get help!" <suspend2-users@...ts.tuxonice.net>
CC:	suspend2-devel@...ts.tuxonice.net,
	pm list <linux-pm@...ts.linux-foundation.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [Suspend2-users] [Suspend2-devel] Freezing filesystems (Was Re:
 What's in store for 2008 for TuxOnIce?)

Hi Martin.

Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> Am Mittwoch 02 Januar 2008 schrieb Nigel Cunningham:
>> Hi.
> 
> Hi,
> 
>> Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, 2 of January 2008, Theodore Tso wrote:
>>>> On Wed, Jan 02, 2008 at 10:54:18AM +1100, Nigel Cunningham
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> I would also like the TuxOnIce issues related to drivers,
>>>>>> ACPI, etc. to go to one of the kernel-related lists, but I
>>>>>> think linux-pm may be better for that due to the much lower
>>>>>> traffic.
>>>>> I guess that makes sense. I guess people can always be
>>>>> referred to LKML for the issues where the appropriate person
>>>>> isn't on linux-pm.
>>>> Hi Nigel,
>>>> 
>>>> I'd really recommend pushing the TuxOnIce discussions to LKML.
>>> CCing linux-pm (or even linux-acpi) on problem reports would
>>> still be recommended, though. :-)
>> Right. And that may make things easier as far as TuxOnIce users go
>> too. I have one user who currently subscribes to suspend2-users who
>> already tried subscribing to LKML and said he didn't like the
>> experience. Using linux-pm instead would save some pain there.
> 
> I am a bit reluctant about LKML from some of the discussions I have
> seen there and participated in during CFS / CK discussion. I really
> didn't like the tone. Its one thing to say ones own oppinion, another
> one to bash at each other as if there was no tomorrow.
> 
> This has been refreshingly different on tuxonice mailing lists. I am
> also a bit reluctant about the traffic. I already have some quite
> high traffic mailinglists with 30000-40000 mails a year, but LKML
> would top these easily I guess and I am not that sure I want to put
> that load on my mail infrastructure to follow TuxOnIce developments.
> I think this is a generic problem for testers of specific kernel
> subsystems...
> 
> But then LKML is were TuxOnIce is visible to the kernel developer 
> community.
> 
> I would appreciate linux-pm I think maybe with a guideline to CC to
> LKML in usual cases...

Thanks for your feedback. I think that's the way to go.

> BTW: toi-3.0-rc3 is rocking along nicely on my two ThinkPads (T42 and
>  T23)... I am using 2.6.23.12 with cfs-v24.1...

Great to hear!

Nigel
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