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Message-id: <477C2B71.7040504@shaw.ca>
Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2008 18:25:21 -0600
From: Robert Hancock <hancockr@...w.ca>
To: Linda Walsh <lkml@...nx.org>
Cc: Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>, linux-ide@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: SATA kernel-buffered read VERY slow (not raid,
Promise TX300 card); 2.6.23.1(vanilla)
Linda Walsh wrote:
> Alan Cox wrote:
>>> rate began falling; at 128k block-reads-at-a-time or larger, it drops
>>> below
>>> 20MB/s (only on buffered SATA).
>>
>> Try disabling NCQ - see if you've got a drive with the 'NCQ = no
>> readahead' flaw.
> ---
> I'm not aware, off hand, how to disable NCQ. I haven't had any
> NCQ- or SATA- capable disks before a few weeks ago.
See here:
http://linux-ata.org/faq.html#ncq
>
>>> The only way I could tell before was using hdparm to read the
>>> parameters. Since that doesn't work, it's hard to tell if they
>>> are set correctly...
>>
>> hdparm supports identify to read modes on drives with libata. The one
>> thing you cannot do is force modes right now.
>>
>>> More importantly, how does one set parameters for acoustic and power
>>> saving parameters? Some of my disks are used as 'backup' devices for my
>>
>> hdparm or blktool
> ----
>
> I have hdparm-v7.7. There are some areas where it shows information,
> but areas where it
> does not work jump out and lead me to suspect whether or not areas
> that don't give explicit "ERROR" messages are presenting valid info.
>
> Problem areas (using hdparm, disk=Seagate Barracuda 16MB cache, model=
> ST3750640AS):
> 1) The drives current 'multicount' setting isn't readable or settable.
> param "-i" shows "?16?" (with question marks around 16) and "-I" simply
> shows "?" for the current setting. Attempting to <read|set> it:
> "HDIO_<GET|SET>_MULTCOUNT failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device"
I don't think you can get or get the multi count currently, it just uses
the best supported value.
> 2) Drive Advanced Power Management setting("-B") (write-only):
> "HDIO_DRIVE_CMD failed: Input/output error"
> 3) Drive Acoustic ("-M"), read = " acoustic = not supported",
> write = " HDIO_DRIVE_CMD:ACOUSTIC failed: Input/output error"
> Note: drive detailed info from "-I" says:
> "Recommended acoustic management value: 254, current value: 0"
> (i.e. - there seems to be no way to set recommended value)
Not sure about these ones.. Does anything show up in dmesg when you do this?
> 4) 32-bit IO setting ("-c") (don't know if this important given the disk's
> raw-read speed, it may be meaningless for SATA)
> "IO_support = 0 (default 16-bit)"*
> *
This setting is not meaningful for anything using DMA.
> FWIW -- the spindown/standby timeout ("S") does seem to work.
>
>>> other computers. With the ATA disks, they were kept "spun down" when
>>> not
>>> being used (only used, 'normally', in early AM hours).
>>
>> Well for backup devices you can use the fact SATA is hot/warm plug.
> ---
> I don't follow. It is an internal drive. Are their software "logically
> unplug" commands that automatically re-"plug-in" the drive on access
> and spin it back up like the spindown/standby timeout does? Or were
> you referring to SATA's general hot/warm plug ability (if my hardware
> setup, drive-slots, etc, permitted removability)?
I think they were referring to physically hotplugging the drive. This is
more practical if you have a removable drive caddy, or if the drive is
hooked up through eSATA.
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