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Message-ID: <4783CBD9.7020709@reed.com>
Date:	Tue, 08 Jan 2008 14:15:37 -0500
From:	"David P. Reed" <dpreed@...d.com>
To:	Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>
CC:	Ondrej Zary <linux@...nbow-software.org>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>,
	Rene Herman <rene.herman@...access.nl>,
	Bodo Eggert <7eggert@....de>,
	Christer Weinigel <christer@...nigel.se>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>, Paul Rolland <rol@...917.net>,
	Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>,
	rol@...be.net
Subject: Re: Re: [PATCH] x86: provide a DMI based port 0x80
 I/O delay override.

Alan Cox wrote:
> The natsemi docs here say otherwise. I trust them not you.
>   
As well you should. I am honestly curious (for my own satisfaction) as 
to what the natsemi docs say the delay code should do  (can't imagine 
they say "use io port 80 because it is unused").  I don't have any 
copies anymore. But mere curiosity on my part is not worth spending a 
lot of time on - I know you are super busy.   If there's a copy online 
at a URL ...
>
> The problem is that certain people, unfortunately those who know
> nothing about ISA related bus systems, keep trying to confuse ISA delay
> logic with core chip logic and end up trying to solve both a problem and a
> non-problem in one, creating a nasty mess in the process.
>
>   
I agree that the problems of chip logic and ISA delay are all tangled 
up, probably more than need be.  I hope that the solution turns out to 
simplify matters, and hopefully to document the intention of the 
resulting code sections a bit more clearly for the future.
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