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Message-ID: <20080109182250.GB4394@does.not.exist>
Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 20:22:50 +0200
From: Adrian Bunk <bunk@...nel.org>
To: Zachary Amsden <zach@...are.com>
Cc: Rene Herman <rene.herman@...access.nl>,
Christer Weinigel <christer@...nigel.se>,
"David P. Reed" <dpreed@...d.com>, Avi Kivity <avi@...ranet.com>,
Ondrej Zary <linux@...nbow-software.org>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>, Bodo Eggert <7eggert@....de>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>,
Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
Paul Rolland <rol@...917.net>, Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>,
rol <rol@...be.net>
Subject: Re: Re: [PATCH] x86: provide a DMI based port 0x80
I/O delay override.
On Wed, Jan 09, 2008 at 10:17:24AM -0800, Zachary Amsden wrote:
> On Wed, 2008-01-09 at 16:27 +0100, Rene Herman wrote:
> > On 09-01-08 06:30, Christer Weinigel wrote:
> > I'd not expect very time crtical. The current outb_p use gives a delay
> > somewhere between .5 and 2 microseconds as per earlier survey meaning a
> > udelay(1) or 2 would be enough -- again, at the point that udelay() is sensible.
> >
> > New machines don't use the legacy PIC anymore anyway.
> >
> > > The floppy controller code uses outb_p. Even though there might be
> > > floppy controllers on modern systems, I'd rather leave the floppy code
> > > alone since it's supposed to be very fragile. If you still use
> > > floppies you deserve what you get.
> >
> > Floppies forever. In practice, leaving it alone isn't going to matter, but
> > in that same practice changing it to udelay() probably doesn't either. The
> > ones to leave alone are the ones that are clumsy/impossible to test and the
> > ones such as in NIC drivers that were specifically tuned.
>
> I'm speaking specifically in terms of 64-bit platforms here. Shouldn't
> we unconditionally drop outb_p doing extra port I/O on 64-bit
> architectures? Especially considering they don't even have an ISA bus
> where the decode timing could even matter?
>...
I don't think the latter statement was true - AFAIR there are Alphas
with ISA slots.
> Agree.
>
> Zach
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Adrian
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