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Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0801101143180.20926@schroedinger.engr.sgi.com>
Date:	Thu, 10 Jan 2008 11:46:56 -0800 (PST)
From:	Christoph Lameter <clameter@....com>
To:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
cc:	Matt Mackall <mpm@...enic.com>,
	Pekka J Enberg <penberg@...helsinki.fi>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>, Hugh Dickins <hugh@...itas.com>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@...stfloor.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@...llo.nl>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] greatly reduce SLOB external fragmentation

On Thu, 10 Jan 2008, Linus Torvalds wrote:

> It's not even clear that a buddy allocator even for the high-order pages 
> is at all the right choice. Almost nobody actually wants >64kB blocks, and 
> the ones that *do* want bigger allocations tend to want *much* bigger 
> ones, so it's quite possible that it could be worth it to have something 
> like a three-level allocator:

Excellent! I am definitely on board with this.

>  - huge pages (superpages for those crazy db people)
> 
>    Just a simple linked list of these things is fine, we'd never care 
>    about coalescing large pages together anyway.
> 
>  - "large pages" (on the order of ~64kB) - with *perhaps* a buddy bitmap 
>    setup to try to coalesce back into huge-pages, but more likely just 
>    admitting that you'd need something like migration to ever get back a 
>    hugepage that got split into large-pages.
> 
>    So maybe a simple bitmap allocator per huge-page for large pages. Say 
>    you have a 4MB huge-page, and just a 64-bit free-bitmap per huge-page 
>    when you split it into large pages.
> 
>  - slab/slub/slob for anything else, and "get_free_page()" ends up being 
>    just a shorthand for saying "naturally aligned kmalloc of size 
>    "PAGE_SIZE<<order"
> 
> and maybe it would all work out ok. 

Hmmm... a 3 level allocator? Basically we would have BASE_PAGE 
STANDARD_PAGE and HUGE_PAGE? We could simply extend the page allocator to 
have 3 pcp lists for these sizes and go from there?

Thinking about the arches this would mean

	BASE_PAGE	STANDARD_PAGE	HUGE_PAGE
x86_64	4k		64k		2M
i386	4k		16k		4M
ia64	16k		256k		1G

?

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