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Message-ID: <478BF449.2050307@keyaccess.nl>
Date:	Tue, 15 Jan 2008 00:46:17 +0100
From:	Rene Herman <rene.herman@...access.nl>
To:	Bjorn Helgaas <bjorn.helgaas@...com>
CC:	Andrew Morton <akpm@...l.org>, "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@...k.pl>,
	Pierre Ossman <drzeus@...eus.cx>, Pavel Machek <pavel@...e.cz>,
	Ondrej Zary <linux@...nbow-software.org>,
	Jaroslav Kysela <perex@...ex.cz>,
	ALSA development <alsa-devel@...a-project.org>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Takashi Iwai <tiwai@...e.de>,
	linux-pm@...ts.linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: -mm: pnp-do-not-stop-start-devices-in-suspend-resume-path.patch
 breaks resuming isapnp cards

On 14-01-08 23:26, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:

> On Saturday 12 January 2008 11:13:35 pm Rene Herman wrote:

>> I find DISABLE including DO_NOT_CHANGE rather unexpected...
> 
> I don't know the history of those flags, but I wish they didn't exist.
> They really look like warts in the PNP core code.  They're used so
> infrequently and without obvious rationale, that it seems like it'd
> be better if there were a way to deal with them inside the driver.

I see, thanks for the comment. PNP_DRIVER_RES_DISABLE is used by ALSA only 
and used by _all_ ALSA ISA-PnP drivers (snd-sscape uses RES_DO_NOT_CHANGE 
instead but we should consider that one a consistency bug).

RES_DO_NOT_CHANGE is used by drivers/pnp/system.c and rtc-cmos.c as well. 
I'll look at this. Getting rid of DISABLE as a first step should not be 
overly problematic. This might again be a left-over from days where no easy 
to use interface to PnP existed which it now does in echoing things into sysfs.

Takashi: which reminds me -- crap, I promised to document more of that for 
ALSA use following up the recent pnp driver-side resource setting removal. 
Sorry, forgot, will do.

> This had to do with the excessive warnings about exceeding the maximum
> number of resources for a PNP device.  This should be resolved by Len's
> patch here:
> 
>   http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9535#c10
> 
> We all agree this is a stop-gap, and for 2.6.25, we need the real
> solution of making PNP resources fully dynamic.

Thank you. Just pulled and see that's now indeed in. Wasn't in -rc7 yet...

Rene.
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