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Date:	Tue, 15 Jan 2008 13:39:47 +0100
From:	Johannes Berg <johannes@...solutions.net>
To:	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
Cc:	Dave Young <hidave.darkstar@...il.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>, Oleg Nesterov <oleg@...sign.ru>
Subject: Re: 2.6.24-rc7 lockdep warning when poweroff


> > To make sure now:
> > 	same key - different name	- BAD
> > 	same key - same name		- OK
> > 	different key - same name	- OK
> 
> Strictly speaking one can do that, although I would recommend against it
> - it leads to confusion as to which lock got into trouble when looking
> at lockdep/stat output.

True, but I don't see a good way to avoid that. Similar things also
happen with

	mutex_init(&priv->mtx);

for example, no?

> > The root problem here seems to be that I use the same name as for the
> > workqueue for the lockdep_map and other code uses a non-static workqueue
> > name. Using the workqueue name for the lock is good for knowing which
> > workqueue ran into trouble though.
> 
> Indeed, and also using a different key allows the workqueue to have
> different lock dependencies as well. The trouble is, lockdep works at
> the class level, a class with multiple names just doesn't make sense,
> and reporting will get it wrong (although it may appear to work
> correctly in the trivial cases).

Right.

> > mac80211 for example wants to allocate a (single-threaded) workqueue for
> > each hardware that is plugged in and wants to call it by the hardware
> > name.
> 
> Right, that would require a new key for each instance.

Except, how could I do that though? Keys are required to be static, so I
can't have the object as the key. In any case, I don't think it matters
much because the workqueues are per-hardware but all have similar users,
I think that the other users here probably behave similarly.

> > If you think the patch is a correct way to solve the problem I'll submit
> > it formally and it should then be included in 2.6.24 to avoid
> > regressions with the workqueue API (the workqueue lockup detection was
> > merged early in 2.6.24.)
> 
> The patch looks ok, one important thing to note is that it means that
> all workqueues instantiated by the same __create_workqueue() call-site
> share lock dependency chains - I'm unsure if that might get us into
> trouble or not.

It doesn't seem to have so far ;) I don't think it should. If some code
allocates a per-instance workqueue that's much like having an inode lock
or so.

The scenario to get into trouble with this would require having a
per-instance lock and a per-instance workqueue and flushing the
workqueue (that can contain functions taking the lock of instance A) of
instance A under the lock of instance B, but unless that is nested in a
way that it cannot happen in order BA as well it's actually a possible
ABBA deadlock.

> > Who should I send it to in that case?
> 
> Me and Ingo :-)

Alright, I'll write a patch description and send it in a minute.

johannes

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