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Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0801300136430.14907@fbirervta.pbzchgretzou.qr>
Date:	Wed, 30 Jan 2008 01:37:48 +0100 (CET)
From:	Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@...putergmbh.de>
To:	Mike Frysinger <vapier@...too.org>
cc:	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Sam Ravnborg <sam@...nborg.org>,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw2@...radead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] linux/types.h: always export 64bit aligned defines


On Jan 29 2008 19:16, Mike Frysinger wrote:
>> >> Some kernel headers exported to userspace rely on these 64bit
>> >> aligned defines. However, they are hidden behind
>> >> __KERNEL_STRICT_NAMES at the moment which means most of the time,
>> >> they're never actually available.
>>
>> Wrong way.
>
>i'm thinking the right way, i just may not have expressed it completely 
>clearly ...
>
>> They are inside #ifndef __KERNEL_STRICT_NAMES, so 
>> they _are_ available to userspace.
>
>for all practical purposes, they are not.  glibc will define 
>__KERNEL_STRICT_NAMES because (like a sane C lib), it defines all of the 
>basic types that the kernel also defines.

Phew - now we have two sorts of userspace? (Those with glibc and
those without, aka standalone). Right, it's messy, which is why
this thread exists and a better solution is sought :)
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