linux-kernel - Re: [patch 01/26] mount options: add documentation

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Message-Id: <200801300254.06363.zippel@linux-m68k.org>
Date:	Wed, 30 Jan 2008 02:54:04 +0100
From:	Roman Zippel <zippel@...ux-m68k.org>
To:	Miklos Szeredi <miklos@...redi.hu>
Cc:	akpm@...ux-foundation.org, linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, Steve French <sfrench@...ibm.com>,
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	Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@...il.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...e.de>
Subject: Re: [patch 01/26] mount options: add documentation

Hi,

On Thursday 24. January 2008, Miklos Szeredi wrote:

> Q: Why do we need correct option showing in /proc/mounts?
> A: We want /proc/mounts to fully replace /etc/mtab.  The reasons for
>    this are:
>     - unprivileged mounters won't be able to update /etc/mtab
>     - /etc/mtab doesn't work with private mount namespaces
>     - /etc/mtab can become out-of-sync with reality

I asked this before and I don't remember getting an answer:
How does this deal with certain special cases:
- chroot: how will mount/df only show the for chroot relevant mounts?
- loop: how is the connection between file and loop device maintained?

I don't quite see how you want to achieve a _full_ replacement.

Could also please explain why you want to go via user mounts. Other OS use a 
daemon for that, which e.g. can maintain access controls. How do you want to 
manage this?

bye, Roman
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