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Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 10:07:44 +0300 From: Al Boldi <a1426z@...ab.com> To: Jan Kara <jack@...e.cz> Cc: Chris Mason <chris.mason@...cle.com>, Andreas Dilger <adilger@....com>, Chris Snook <csnook@...hat.com>, linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org Subject: Re: [RFC] ext3: per-process soft-syncing data=ordered mode Jan Kara wrote: > On Sat 02-02-08 00:26:00, Al Boldi wrote: > > Chris Mason wrote: > > > Al, could you please compare the write throughput from vmstat for the > > > data=ordered vs data=writeback runs? I would guess the data=ordered > > > one has a lower overall write throughput. > > > > That's what I would have guessed, but it's actually going up 4x fold for > > mysql from 559mb to 2135mb, while the db-size ends up at 549mb. > > So you say we write 4-times as much data in ordered mode as in writeback > mode. Hmm, probably possible because we force all the dirty data to disk > when committing a transation in ordered mode (and don't do this in > writeback mode). So if the workload repeatedly dirties the whole DB, we > are going to write the whole DB several times in ordered mode but in > writeback mode we just keep the data in memory all the time. But this is > what you ask for if you mount in ordered mode so I wouldn't consider it a > bug. Ok, maybe not a bug, but a bit inefficient. Check out this workload: sync; while :; do dd < /dev/full > /mnt/sda2/x.dmp bs=1M count=20 rm -f /mnt/sda2/x.dmp usleep 10000 done vmstat 1 ( with mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/sda2 -o data=writeback) << note io-bo >> procs -----------memory---------- ---swap-- -----io---- --system-- ----cpu---- r b swpd free buff cache si so bi bo in cs us sy id wa 2 0 0 293008 5232 57436 0 0 0 0 18 206 4 80 16 0 1 0 0 282840 5232 67620 0 0 0 0 18 238 3 81 16 0 1 0 0 297032 5244 53364 0 0 0 152 21 211 4 79 17 0 1 0 0 285236 5244 65224 0 0 0 0 18 232 4 80 16 0 1 0 0 299464 5244 50880 0 0 0 0 18 222 4 80 16 0 1 0 0 290156 5244 60176 0 0 0 0 18 236 3 80 17 0 0 0 0 302124 5256 47788 0 0 0 152 21 213 4 80 16 0 1 0 0 292180 5256 58248 0 0 0 0 18 239 3 81 16 0 1 0 0 287452 5256 62444 0 0 0 0 18 202 3 80 17 0 1 0 0 293016 5256 57392 0 0 0 0 18 250 4 80 16 0 0 0 0 302052 5256 47788 0 0 0 0 19 194 3 81 16 0 1 0 0 297536 5268 52928 0 0 0 152 20 233 4 79 17 0 1 0 0 286468 5268 63872 0 0 0 0 18 212 3 81 16 0 1 0 0 301572 5268 48812 0 0 0 0 18 267 4 79 17 0 1 0 0 292636 5268 57776 0 0 0 0 18 208 4 80 16 0 1 0 0 302124 5280 47788 0 0 0 152 21 237 4 80 16 0 1 0 0 291436 5280 58976 0 0 0 0 18 205 3 81 16 0 1 0 0 302068 5280 47788 0 0 0 0 18 234 3 81 16 0 1 0 0 293008 5280 57388 0 0 0 0 18 221 4 79 17 0 1 0 0 297288 5292 52532 0 0 0 156 22 233 2 81 16 1 1 0 0 294676 5292 55724 0 0 0 0 19 199 3 81 16 0 vmstat 1 (with mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/sda2 -o data=ordered) procs -----------memory---------- ---swap-- -----io---- --system-- ----cpu---- r b swpd free buff cache si so bi bo in cs us sy id wa 2 0 0 291052 5156 59016 0 0 0 0 19 223 3 82 15 0 1 0 0 291408 5156 58704 0 0 0 0 18 218 3 81 16 0 1 0 0 291888 5156 58276 0 0 0 20 23 229 3 80 17 0 1 0 0 300764 5168 49472 0 0 0 12864 91 235 3 69 13 15 1 0 0 300740 5168 49456 0 0 0 0 19 215 3 80 17 0 1 0 0 301088 5168 49044 0 0 0 0 18 241 4 80 16 0 1 0 0 298220 5168 51872 0 0 0 0 18 225 3 81 16 0 0 1 0 289168 5168 60752 0 0 0 12712 45 237 3 77 15 5 1 0 0 300260 5180 49852 0 0 0 152 68 211 4 72 15 9 1 0 0 298616 5180 51460 0 0 0 0 18 237 3 81 16 0 1 0 0 296988 5180 53092 0 0 0 0 18 223 3 81 16 0 1 0 0 296608 5180 53480 0 0 0 0 18 223 3 81 16 0 0 0 0 301640 5192 48036 0 0 0 12868 93 206 4 67 13 16 0 0 0 301624 5192 48036 0 0 0 0 21 218 3 81 16 0 0 0 0 301600 5192 48036 0 0 0 0 18 212 3 81 16 0 0 0 0 301584 5192 48036 0 0 0 0 18 209 4 80 16 0 0 0 0 301568 5192 48036 0 0 0 0 18 208 3 81 16 0 1 0 0 285520 5204 64548 0 0 0 12864 95 216 3 69 13 15 2 0 0 285124 5204 64924 0 0 0 0 18 222 4 80 16 0 1 0 0 283612 5204 66392 0 0 0 0 18 231 3 81 16 0 1 0 0 284216 5204 65736 0 0 0 0 18 218 4 80 16 0 0 1 0 289160 5204 60752 0 0 0 12712 56 213 3 74 15 8 1 0 0 285884 5216 64128 0 0 0 152 54 209 4 75 15 6 1 0 0 287472 5216 62572 0 0 0 0 18 223 3 81 16 0 Do you think these 12mb redundant writeouts could be buffered? (Note: you may need to adjust dd count and usleep to see the same effect) > I still don't like your hack with per-process journal mode setting > but we could easily do per-file journal mode setting (we already have a > flag to do data journaling for a file) and that would help at least your > DB workload... Well, that depends on what kind of db you use. mysql creates db's as a dir, and then manages the tables and indexes as files inside that dir. So I don't think this flag would be feasible for that use-case. Much easier to just say: echo 1 > /proc/`pidof mysqld`/soft-sync But the per-file flag could definitely help the file-mmap case, and as such could be a great additional feature in combination to this RFC. Thanks! -- Al -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@...r.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
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