linux-kernel - Re: Announce: Linux-next (Or Andrew's dream :-))

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Message-ID: <20080212170422.GE3051@tuxdriver.com>
Date:	Tue, 12 Feb 2008 12:04:22 -0500
From:	"John W. Linville" <linville@...driver.com>
To:	Jeff Garzik <jeff@...zik.org>
Cc:	David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	akpm@...ux-foundation.org, torvalds@...ux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: Announce: Linux-next (Or Andrew's dream :-))

On Tue, Feb 12, 2008 at 11:31:48AM -0500, Jeff Garzik wrote:
> David Miller wrote:
>> I rebase my tree all the time, at least once or twice per
>> week.  Why?

<snip>

> FWIW, that is annoying and painful for us downstream jobbers, since it 
> isn't really how git was meant to be used.  You use it more like a patch 
> queue, where commits are very fluid.

<snip>

> I understand the desire to want a nice and clean history, but the frequency 
> here really has a negative impact on your downstreams.

FWIW, I definitely have a (vocal minority) group of contributors
who resent all the rebasing.  There may be a few cases of 'vanity'
represented here, but there are definitely reasonable complaints about
not being able to do simple pulls to stay up-to-date and/or having
to rebase before they can send patches to me.  FWIW, I think it might
save a bit of my time as well, although I have become pretty good and
"riding the tide" of rebasing... :-(

Unfortunately, I don't have any good suggestions to remedy the issue.
One strategy might be a third layer of trees, e.g.:

	net-2.6			fixes for the current release
	net-2.6.26		updates certain to go to the next release
	net-2.6.26-maybe	updates that might not make it to the next release

Of course, managing what goes moves-up from -maybe is probably a big
headache, and just sucks-up more of Dave's time.  And, of course,
virtually no one will run the -maybe tree...

Just my $0.02...

John
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John W. Linville
linville@...driver.com
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