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Message-Id: <1202791555.20739.6.camel@heimdal.trondhjem.org>
Date:	Mon, 11 Feb 2008 23:45:55 -0500
From:	Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@....uio.no>
To:	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@...radead.org>
Cc:	Greg KH <greg@...ah.com>, Stephen Rothwell <sfr@...b.auug.org.au>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>, linux-next@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-arch@...r.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Linus <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: Announce: Linux-next (Or Andrew's dream  :-))


On Mon, 2008-02-11 at 20:31 -0800, Arjan van de Ven wrote:
> in my experience, the only chance you have is doing API changes as first in the set of changes,
> and then hoping (making) all other trees use the new APIs. Any other order just turns into
> an impossible mismash.

It would be very nice to have a separate tree with _only_ API changes
that could be frozen well before Linus' merge window opens. It should be
a requirement that maintainers use this tree as a basis for testing API
changes and even test that their own changesets were properly integrated
with the changed APIs.
As it is, we tend to get the order entirely wrong: API changes typically
get merged _after_ the maintainer changes have been merged, and so no
API changes are ever really integration tested.

Cheers
  Trond

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