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Message-ID: <20080213100700.GB21694@flint.arm.linux.org.uk>
Date:	Wed, 13 Feb 2008 10:07:01 +0000
From:	Russell King <rmk+lkml@....linux.org.uk>
To:	Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc:	Al Viro <viro@...IV.linux.org.uk>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@...senPartnership.com>,
	Jeff Garzik <jeff@...zik.org>,
	David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>, arjan@...radead.org,
	greg@...ah.com, sfr@...b.auug.org.au, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-next@...r.kernel.org, linux-arch@...r.kernel.org,
	akpm@...ux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: Announce: Linux-next (Or Andrew's dream :-))

On Tue, Feb 12, 2008 at 09:51:52PM +0000, Alan Cox wrote:
> > We could simply decide that API changes affecting more than one subsystem
> > Must Be Serialized(tm).  Explicitly.  As in "any such change is posted
> 
> Welcome to dreamland. The only way I can get serial changes done is to
> wait months and eventually simply persuade Andrew to ignore the
> "maintainers" who are basically not responding.

... because we didn't realise that the pre-requisits for those patches
had already gone in.  If that had been the case, I'd have applied the
ARM changes for the new tty ioctls immediately.

It was a communication problem, not a process problem.

-- 
Russell King
 Linux kernel    2.6 ARM Linux   - http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/
 maintainer of:
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