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Message-ID: <20080213232248.GF12383@cs181133002.pp.htv.fi>
Date:	Thu, 14 Feb 2008 01:22:48 +0200
From:	Adrian Bunk <bunk@...nel.org>
To:	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>
Cc:	harvey.harrison@...il.com, torvalds@...ux-foundation.org,
	davem@...emloft.net, tglx@...utronix.de, hpa@...or.com,
	xemul@...nvz.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] feature-removal: add documentation for exported
	symbols going away

On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 02:54:05PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 00:43:08 +0200
> Adrian Bunk <bunk@...nel.org> wrote:
> 
> > There's simply no point in treating the removal of exports differently
> > from the many other API breaks we have in each release.
> 
> I have repeatedly and relatively patiently explained to you what the
> point is.  Simply saying that there isn't one doesn't actually make
> it go away.

Yes, we had this when you insisted on the deprecation period for 
sys_open which still brings me to explosion each time such topics come 
up and brought you _very_ near at being the first person ever in my 
killfile.

I don't get your point why bigger API changes should still be allowed 
without any advance warning while removing an export should require 
deprecation periods.

If you want to offer a stable API for external modules then please do 
it completely and with all consequences.

cu
Adrian

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        of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days.
       "Only a promise," Lao Er said.
                                       Pearl S. Buck - Dragon Seed

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