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Message-Id: <E1JPgYm-0002dm-IX@pomaz-ex.szeredi.hu>
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 17:03:40 +0100
From: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@...redi.hu>
To: menage@...gle.com
CC: miklos@...redi.hu, viro@...iv.linux.org.uk,
akpm@...ux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Add MS_BIND_FLAGS mount flag
> On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 12:30 AM, Miklos Szeredi <miklos@...redi.hu> wrote:
> > > For recursive bind mounts, only the root of the tree being bound
> > > inherits the per-mount flags from the mount() arguments; sub-mounts
> > > inherit their per-mount flags from the source tree as usual.
> >
> > This is rather strange behavior. I think it would be much better, if
> > setting mount flags would work for recursive operations as well. Also
> > what we really need is not resetting all the mount flags to some
> > predetermined values, but to be able to set or clear each flag
> > individually.
>
> This is certainly true, but as you observe below it's a fair bit more
> fiddly to specify in the API. I wasn't sure how much people recursive
> bind mounts, so I figured I'd throw out this simpler version first.
>
> >
> > For example, with the per-mount-read-only thing the most useful
> > application would be to just set the read-only flag and leave the
> > others alone.
> >
> > And this is where we usually conclude, that a new userspace mount API
> > is long overdue. So for starters, how about a new syscall for bind
> > mounts:
> >
> > int mount_bind(const char *src, const char *dst, unsigned flags,
> > unsigned mnt_flags);
>
> The "flags" argument could be the same as for regular mount, and
> contain the mnt_flags - so the extra argument could maybe usefully be
> a "mnt_flags_mask", to indicate which flags we actually care about
> overriding.
The way I imagined it, is that mnt_flags is a mask, and the operation
(determined by flags) is either:
- set bits in mask
- clear bits in mask (or not in mask)
- set flags to mask
It doesn't allow setting some bits, clearing some others, and leaving
alone the rest. But I think such flexibility isn't really needed.
>
> What would happen when an existing super-block flag changes to become
> a per-mount flag (e.g. per-mount read-only)? I think that would just
> fit in with the "mask" idea, as long as we complained if any bits in
> mnt_flags_mask weren't actually per-mount settable.
>
> Being able to mask/set mount flags might be useful on a remount too,
> since there's no clean way to get the existing mount flags for a mount
> other than by scanning /proc/mounts. So an alternative to a separate
> system call would be a new mnt_flag_mask argument to mount() (whose
> presence would be indicated by a flag bit being set in the main flags)
> which would be used to control which bits were set cleared for
> remount/bind calls. Seems a bit wasteful of bits though. If we turned
> "flags" into an (optionally) 64-bit argument then we'd have plenty of
> bits to be able to specify both a "set" bit and a "mask" bit for each,
> without needing a new syscall.
The big problem, is that current sys_mount() interface is a really big
pile of random things thrown together, and not a proper API. And just
introducing a new mount64 syscall is really making the problem worse,
by allowing more random things to be added to it.
So while creating a new clean API is harder work, it should be worth
it in the long run.
Maybe instead of messing with masks, it's better to introduce a
get_flags() or a more general mount_stat() operation, and let
userspace deal with setting and clearing flags, just as we do for
stat/chmod?
So we'd have
mount_stat(path, stat);
mount_bind(from, to, flags);
mount_set_flags(path, flags);
mount_move(from, to);
and perhaps
mount_remount(path, opt_string, flags);
And I'm not against doing it with the "at*" variants, as Trond
suggested.
Hmm?
Miklos
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