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Message-ID: <47BC498C.6000400@s5r6.in-berlin.de>
Date:	Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:38:52 +0100
From:	Stefan Richter <stefanr@...6.in-berlin.de>
To:	Stephen Rothwell <sfr@...b.auug.org.au>
CC:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Russell King <rmk+lkml@....linux.org.uk>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Theodore Tso <tytso@....edu>,
	Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@....uio.no>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@...radead.org>,
	Greg KH <greg@...ah.com>, LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	linux-next@...r.kernel.org, linux-arch@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Announce: Linux-next (Or Andrew's dream  :-))

Stephen Rothwell wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 10:01:14 -0800 (PST) Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org> wrote:
>>
>> I absolutely have no problem with having a "this is the infrastrcture 
>> changes that will go into the next release". In fact, I can even 
>> *maintain* such a branch. 
>> 
>> I've not wanted to open up a second branch for "this is for next release", 
>> because quite frankly, one of the other problems we have is that people 
>> already spend way too much time on the next release compared to just 
>> looking at regressions in the current one. But especially if we're talking 
>> about _purely_ API changes etc infrastructure, I could certainly do a 
>> "next" branch. 
> 
> So, will you open such a branch?  If so, what would be the mechanics of
> having patches applied to it?  I assume people would have to suggest such
> changes explicitly and have them reviewed (hopefully more thoroughly than
> usual) in that light.  I guess one place these "infrastructure" changes
> may be noticed would be when subsystem maintainers stray outside their
> subsystem in what they submit to the linux-next tree (or break it).

Two things may largely eliminate the need for parallel branches.

1. Do infrastructure changes and whole tree wide refactoring etc. in a
compatible manner with a brief but nonzero transition period.

2. Insert a second merge window right after the usual merge window for
changes which cannot be well done with a transition period.

(I probably missed a number of points why these two things are not
always feasible, because I am just a downstream person.)
-- 
Stefan Richter
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