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Message-ID: <47BE27AE.8050009@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 10:38:54 +0900
From: Tejun Heo <htejun@...il.com>
To: Max Krasnyanskiy <maxk@...lcomm.com>
CC: rusty@...tcorp.com.au, Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: Module loading/unloading and "The Stop Machine"
Max Krasnyanskiy wrote:
> Thanks for the info. I guess I missed that from the code. In any case
> that seems like a pretty heavy refcounting mechanism. In a sense that
> every time something is loaded or unloaded entire machine freezes,
> potentially for several milliseconds. Normally it's not a big deal. But
> once you get more and more CPUs and/or start using realtime apps this
> becomes a big deal.
Module loading doesn't involve stop_machine last time I checked. It's a
big deal when unloading a module but it's actually a very good trade off
because it makes much hotter path (module_get/put) much cheaper. If
your application can't stand stop_machine, simply don't unload a module.
> And it's plain broken for the use case that I mentioned
> during CPU isolation discussions. ie When user-space thread(s) prevent
> stopmachine kthread from running, in which
> case machine simply hangs until those user-space threads exit.
This I don't know nothing about. :-)
--
tejun
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