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Message-ID: <47C26E0E.2070109@pobox.com>
Date:	Mon, 25 Feb 2008 02:28:14 -0500
From:	Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@...ox.com>
To:	Grant Grundler <grundler@...isc-linux.org>
CC:	Ondrej Zary <linux@...nbow-software.org>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	netdev@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Compex FreedomLine 32 PnP-PCI2 broken with de2104x

Grant Grundler wrote:
> ISTR there was a time when tulip would compete with de4x5 for devices.
> tulip is the preferred driver. That's clearly no longer the case
> and perhaps both distro's need to revisit this.

The only reason why de4x5 still exists is that the /tulip/ driver fails 
to work on a few chips like the 21142 (43?) shipped in various alpha boxen.

de4x5 needs to go away, it's been unmaintained for ages, doesn't support 
any of the new hotplug APIs.


> de2104x is a "work in progress".
> That's why it's marked "EXPERIMENTAL" in the Kconfig file.

It's not a work in progress, it works just fine for most people (the few 
that are left).

Last I heard, there was a problem with non-twisted-pair stuff, but 
that's about it.

'experimental' is generally a poorly maintained marker.

	Jeff


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