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Message-ID: <84fc9c000803051344q3294d02cvaf860e345b923077@mail.gmail.com>
Date:	Wed, 5 Mar 2008 22:44:35 +0100
From:	"Richard Guenther" <richard.guenther@...il.com>
To:	"Joe Buck" <Joe.Buck@...opsys.com>
Cc:	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>, "Michael Matz" <matz@...e.de>,
	"Jan Hubicka" <hubicka@....cz>,
	"Aurelien Jarno" <aurelien@...el32.net>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, gcc@....gnu.org
Subject: Re: RELEASE BLOCKER: Linux doesn't follow x86/x86-64 ABI wrt direction flag

On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 10:43 PM, Joe Buck <Joe.Buck@...opsys.com> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Mar 05, 2008 at 01:34:14PM -0800, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
>  > Richard Guenther wrote:
>  > >
>  > >We didn't yet run into this issue and build openSUSE with 4.3 since more
>  > >than
>  > >three month.
>  > >
>  >
>  > Well, how often do you take a trap inside an overlapping memmove()?
>
>  Also, would it be possible to produce an exploit?  If you can get string
>  instructions to work "the wrong way", you might be able to overwrite data.
>
>  "We haven't seen a problem" isn't the right answer.  Can someone
>  deliberately *create* a problem?
>
>  And if we aren't sure, we should err on the side of safety.

Oh, you mean releasing a kernel security update? ;)  What does ICC or
other compilers do?

Richard.
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