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Date:	Thu, 06 Mar 2008 21:16:45 -0500
From:	Jeff Garzik <jeff@...zik.org>
To:	Tejun Heo <htejun@...il.com>
CC:	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@...senPartnership.com>,
	Mark Lord <liml@....ca>, Matthew Wilcox <matthew@....cx>,
	linux-ide@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: ata_ram driver

Tejun Heo wrote:
> James Bottomley wrote:
>>> Yeap, sure.  It's the combination of things that always made me put this
>>> off.  Is there a function I can call to just shutdown the host instead
>>> of destroying it?
>> Not really ... the process of unbinding the ULDs causes their remove
>> methods to call shudown.  It is possible to separate this in the ULDS;
>> but the original design was to make remove and shutdown be similar for
>> the very reason that if you're removing the driver with unflushed data
>> in the cache, we'd really like it flushed (flush is called from
>> shutdown) because you have no way to talk to the device after this
>> without reinserting the driver.
> 
> The problem is that libata EH and other stuff aren't ready to let go of
> the SCSI host up until the last moment and that last moment can't be
> moved before SCSI host destruction because shutdown sequence (flush and
> spindown) requires live EH.  I think this can be solved by shooting down
> individual sdev's instead of destroying the scsi_host.

I'm curious how the picture would change, if we used a scsi_host for 
each ata_host.

	Jeff



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