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Message-ID: <47D29CAB.50301@tuxrocks.com>
Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2008 08:03:23 -0600
From: Frank Sorenson <frank@...rocks.com>
To: Matt Domsch <Matt_Domsch@...l.com>
CC: Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>, kay.sievers@...y.org,
LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>, linux-mm@...ck.org,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@...k.pl>, jcm@...hat.com
Subject: Re: 2.6.25-rc4 OOMs itself dead on bootup (modprobe bug?)
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Matt Domsch wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 08, 2008 at 01:08:46AM -0600, Frank Sorenson wrote:
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>> Frank Sorenson wrote:
>>> I did some additional debugging, and I believe you're correct about it
>>> being specific to my system. The system seems to run fine until some
>>> time during the boot. I booted with "init=/bin/sh" (that's how the
>>> system stayed up for 9 minutes), then it died when I tried starting
>>> things up. I've further narrowed the OOM down to udev (though it's not
>>> entirely udev's fault, since 2.6.24 runs fine).
>>>
>>> I ran your debug info tool before killing the box by running
>>> /sbin/start_udev. The output of the tool is at
>>> http://tuxrocks.com/tmp/cfs-debug-info-2008.03.06-14.11.24
>>>
>>> Something is apparently happening between 2.6.24 and 2.6.25-rc[34] which
>>> causes udev (or something it calls) to behave very badly.
>> Found it. The culprit is 8f47f0b688bba7642dac4e979896e4692177670b
>> dcdbas: add DMI-based module autloading
>>
>> DMI autoload dcdbas on all Dell systems.
>>
>> This looks for BIOS Vendor or System Vendor == Dell, so this should
>> work for systems both Dell-branded and those Dell builds but brands
>> for others. It causes udev to load the dcdbas module at startup,
>> which is used by tools called by HAL for wireless control and
>> backlight control, among other uses.
>>
>> What actually happens is that when udev loads the dcdbas module at
>> startup, modprobe apparently calls "modprobe dcdbas" itself, repeating
>> until the system runs out of resources (in this case, it OOMs).
>>
>> # ps axf
>> ...
>> 506 ? S 0:00 /bin/bash /sbin/start_udev
>> 590 ? S 0:00 \_ /sbin/udevsettle
>> 533 ? S<s 0:00 /sbin/udevd -d
>> 629 ? S< 0:00 \_ /sbin/udevd -d
>> 630 ? S< 0:00 | \_ /sbin/modprobe
>> dmi:bvnDellInc.:bvrA08:bd04/02/2007:svnDellInc.:pnMP061:pvr:rvnDellInc.:rn0YD479:rvr:cvnDellInc.:ct8:cvr:
>> 949 ? S< 0:00 | \_ /sbin/modprobe dcdbas
>> 950 ? S< 0:00 | \_ /sbin/modprobe dcdbas
>> 951 ? S< 0:00 | \_ /sbin/modprobe dcdbas
>> 953 ? S< 0:00 | \_ /sbin/modprobe dcdbas
>> 955 ? S< 0:00 | \_ /sbin/modprobe dcdbas
>> 958 ? S< 0:00 | \_
>> /sbin/modprobe dcdbas
>> ...repeat...
>>
>> When the system crashed, there were at least 11,600 instances of
>> "/sbin/modprobe dcdbas", each calling the next.
>>
>> Reverting 8f47f0b lets the system boot up just fine again. Note that a
>> manual "modprobe dcdbas" also causes this recursive behavior, it's just
>> not forced on the system by udev.
>>
>> So dcdbas is a regression from 2.6.24, as well as being broken in other
>> ways.
>>
>> Frank
>> - --
>> Frank Sorenson - KD7TZK
>> Linux Systems Engineer, DSS Engineering, UBS AG
>> frank@...rocks.com
>
>
> Frank, what version of module-init-tools do you have? This has been
> in use in Fedora 8 for a few months, and this is the first failure
> report I've seen.
>
> I'm fine with reverting the patch for now, but really do want to get
> to root cause, because module autoloading is a really good idea, and
> it would be a shame if we couldn't keep that feature enabled because
> some systems have incompatible module-init-tools, and the kernel can't
> know that... (Perhaps udev could know and not invoke modprobe in
> those instances?)
>
> -Matt
It's module-init-tools-3.4-2.fc8.x86_64 (most recent Fedora rpm available).
Frank
- --
Frank Sorenson - KD7TZK
Linux Systems Engineer, DSS Engineering, UBS AG
frank@...rocks.com
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