lists.openwall.net   lists  /  announce  owl-users  owl-dev  john-users  john-dev  passwdqc-users  yescrypt  popa3d-users  /  oss-security  kernel-hardening  musl  sabotage  tlsify  passwords  /  crypt-dev  xvendor  /  Bugtraq  Full-Disclosure  linux-kernel  linux-netdev  linux-ext4  linux-hardening  linux-cve-announce  PHC 
Open Source and information security mailing list archives
 
Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.
[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]
Date:	Sun, 23 Mar 2008 09:54:40 -0700
From:	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>
To:	"John T." <j.thomast@...oo.com>
CC:	Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@...putergmbh.de>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: UTF-8 and Alt key in the console

John T. wrote:
> 
> That's because you are working in "meta sends ESC" mode.
> Although this is OK for most applications, for some it isn't.
> Thus there have always been two modes, "meta sends ESC"
> and "meta sets 8th bit". (toggled with setmetamode on the
> console)
> 
> Vim relies on "meta sets 8th bit". Unfortunatelly the code
> for this options does not work in UTF-8 in the console. What
> I'd like to do is make this a viable option in UTF-8.
> 

No, fix vim instead.

"Meta sets 8th bit" is so obviously and totally broken, since it maps 
onto real characters, and has been doing so for at least 20 years. 
Meta-L maps onto LATIN CAPITAL LETTER I WITH GRAVE, both in 8-bit mode 
and in your proposed UTF-8 mode.  It just becomes even more obvious how 
unbelievably broken it is when you try to map it onto UTF-8.

Seriously, fix the crap.

	-hpa
--
To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in
the body of a message to majordomo@...r.kernel.org
More majordomo info at  http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Please read the FAQ at  http://www.tux.org/lkml/

Powered by blists - more mailing lists

Powered by Openwall GNU/*/Linux Powered by OpenVZ