Message-ID: <47ED34A4.70604@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Date:	Fri, 28 Mar 2008 23:40:44 +0530
From:	Balbir Singh <balbir@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>
To:	Paul Menage <menage@...gle.com>
CC:	Pavel Emelianov <xemul@...nvz.org>,
	Hugh Dickins <hugh@...itas.com>,
	Sudhir Kumar <skumar@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	YAMAMOTO Takashi <yamamoto@...inux.co.jp>, lizf@...fujitsu.com,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, taka@...inux.co.jp,
	linux-mm@...ck.org, David Rientjes <rientjes@...gle.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@...fujitsu.com>
Subject: Re: [-mm] Add an owner to the mm_struct (v2)

Paul Menage wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 7:52 AM, Balbir Singh <balbir@...ux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
>>  mm->owner_lock is there to protect mm->owner field from changing simultaneously
>>  as tasks fork/exit.
>>
> 
> But the *hardware* already does that for you - individual writes to
> pointers are already atomic operations and so will be serialized.
> Using a lock to guard something only does anything useful if at least
> one of the critical regions that takes the lock consists of more than
> a single atomic operation, or if you have a mixture of read sections
> and write sections. Now it's true that your critical region in
> mm_fork_init_owner() is more than a single atomic op, but I'm arguing
> below that it's a no-op. So that just leaves the single region
> 
> spin_lock(&mm->owner_lock);
> mm->owner = new_owner;
> spin_unlock(&mm->owner_lock);
> 
> which isn't observably different if you remove the spinlock.
> 

At fork time, we can have do_fork() run in parallel and we need to protect
mm->owner, if several threads are created at the same time. We don't want to
overwrite mm->owner for each thread that is created.

>>  Oh! yes.. my bad again. The check should have been p == p->thread_group, but
>>  that is not required either. The check should now ideally be
>>
>>  if (!(clone_flags & CLONE_VM))
>>
> 
> OK, so if the new thread has its own mm (and hence will already have
> mm->owner set up to point to p in mm_init()) then we do:
> 
>>  +       if (mm->owner != p)
>>  +               rcu_assign_pointer(mm->owner, p->group_leader);
> 
> which is a no-op since we know mm->owner == p.
> 
>>  Yes.. I think we need to call it earlier.
>>
> 
> No, I think we need to call it later - after we've cleared current->mm
> (from within task_lock(current)) - so we can't rely on p->mm in this
> function, we have to pass it in. If we call it before while
> current->mm == mm, then we risk a race where the (new or existing)
> owner exits and passes it back to us *after* we've done a check to see
> if we need to find a new owner. If we ensure that current->mm != mm
> before we call mm_update_next_owner(), then we know we're not a
> candidate for receiving the ownership if we don't have it already.
> 

Yes and we could also check for flags & PF_EXITING

>>  But there is no way to guarantee that, what is the new_owner exec's after we've
>>  done the check and assigned. Won't we end up breaking the invariant? How about
>>  we have mm_update_new_owner() call in exec_mmap() as well? That way, we can
>>  still use owner_lock and keep the invariant.
>>
> 
> Oops, I thought that exit_mm() already got called in the execve()
> path, but you're right, it doesn't.
> 
> Yes, exit_mmap() should call mm_update_next_owner() after the call to
> task_unlock(), i.e. after it's set its new mm.
> 
> So I need to express the invariant more carefully.
> 
> What we need to preserve is that, for every mm at all times, mm->owner
> points to a valid task. So either:
> 
> 1) mm->owner->mm == mm AND mm->owner will check to see whether it
> needs to pass ownership before it exits or execs.
> 
> OR
> 
> 2) mm->owner is the last user of mm and is about to free mm.
> 
> OR
> 
> 3) mm->owner is currently searching for another user of mm to pass the
> ownership to.
> 
> In order to get from state 3 to state 1 safely we have to hold
> task_lock(new_owner). Otherwise we can race with an exit or exec in
> new_owner, resulting in a process that has already passed the point of
> checking current->mm->owner.
> 

No.. like you said if we do it after current->mm has changed and is different
from mm, then it's safe to find a new owner. I still don't see why we need
task_lock(new_owner). Even if we have task_lock(new_owner), it can still exit or
exec later.

> I don't see why we need mm->owner_lock to maintain this invariant.
> (But am quite prepared to be proven wrong).
> 

Why mix task_lock() to protect mm->owner? owner_lock can provide the protection
you are talking about.


-- 
	Warm Regards,
	Balbir Singh
	Linux Technology Center
	IBM, ISTL
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