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Date:	Tue, 1 Apr 2008 03:43:07 +0200
From:	Denys Vlasenko <vda.linux@...glemail.com>
To:	Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@...hat.com>
Cc:	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <m-kosaki@...es.dti.ne.jp>,
	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@...ymtl.ca>,
	akpm@...ux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	"Frank Ch. Eigler" <fche@...hat.com>,
	systemtap-ml <systemtap@...rces.redhat.com>,
	Jim Keniston <jkenisto@...ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [OT] Re: [patch for 2.6.26 0/7] Architecture Independent Markers

On Friday 28 March 2008 14:34, Masami Hiramatsu wrote:
> > for heaven's sake, we can have 3 years of _full Linux kernel history_, 
> > with all 87875 commits, with full changelog and dependencies and full 
> > source code included, packed into a rather tight, 180 MB git repository 
> > ...
> > 
> > [ and then i havent even begun about the on-disk footprint of this 
> >   monstrum, after the packages have been installed: an additional 850 MB.
> >   Puh-lease ... ]
> 
> Thank for Moore's law and all storage engineers, nowadays we can buy
> an 1TB(=1000GB!) HDD with less than $300!(I also surprised...)
> And many other compressed filesystem can be used for saving disk space.

This is not a valid technical reason for creating bloatware.

Bloatware's main problem is not a cost of storing it or
downloading it. The main problem that over time it becomes
an unmaintainable monstrosity nobody is willing to deal with.

I would rather try to find and fix a bug in 2000 lines of C code
than in 200 000 lines.
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vda
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