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Date:	Tue, 15 Apr 2008 21:36:06 +0000
From:	Soeren Sonnenburg <kernel@....de>
To:	"Pallipadi\, Venkatesh" <venkatesh.pallipadi@...el.com>
Cc:	"Rafael J\. Wysocki" <rjw@...k.pl>, Adrian Bunk <bunk@...nel.org>,
	"Carlos R\. Mafra" <crmafra2@...il.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: RE: [Bug #10117] 2.6.25-current-git sometimes hangs on boot -
	dual-core Sony Vaio

On Tue, 2008-04-15 at 14:33 -0700, Pallipadi, Venkatesh wrote:
> 
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Rafael J. Wysocki [mailto:rjw@...k.pl] 
> >Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 2:24 PM
> >To: Soeren Sonnenburg
> >Cc: Pallipadi, Venkatesh; Adrian Bunk; Carlos R. Mafra; Linux 
> >Kernel Mailing List
> >Subject: Re: [Bug #10117] 2.6.25-current-git sometimes hangs 
> >on boot - dual-core Sony Vaio
> >
> >On Tuesday, 15 of April 2008, Soeren Sonnenburg wrote:
> >> On Tue, 2008-04-15 at 14:09 -0700, Pallipadi, Venkatesh wrote:
> >> > 
> >> > >-----Original Message-----
> >> > >From: Rafael J. Wysocki [mailto:rjw@...k.pl] 
> >> > >Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 2:04 PM
> >> > >To: Adrian Bunk
> >> > >Cc: Carlos R. Mafra; Linux Kernel Mailing List; Soeren 
> >> > >Sonnenburg; Pallipadi, Venkatesh
> >> > >Subject: Re: [Bug #10117] 2.6.25-current-git sometimes hangs 
> >> > >on boot - dual-core Sony Vaio
> >> > >
> >> > >On Tuesday, 15 of April 2008, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> >> > >> On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 10:33:38PM +0200, Rafael J. 
> >Wysocki wrote:
> >> > >> > On Tuesday, 15 of April 2008, Carlos R. Mafra wrote:
> >> > >> > > On Sun 13.Apr'08 at 17:25:45 -0300, Carlos R. Mafra wrote:
> >> > >> > > > On Sun 13.Apr'08 at 20:56:41 +0200, Rafael J. 
> >Wysocki wrote:
> >> > >> > > > > This message has been generated automatically as a 
> >> > >part of a report
> >> > >> > > > > of recent regressions.
> >> > >> > > > > 
> >> > >> > > > > The following bug entry is on the current list of 
> >> > >known regressions
> >> > >> > > > > from 2.6.24.  Please verify if it still should 
> >be listed.
> >> > >> > > > > 
> >> > >> > > > > 
> >> > >> > > > > Bug-Entry	: 
> >> > >http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10117
> >> > >> > > > > Subject		: 2.6.25-current-git sometimes 
> >> > >hangs on boot - dual-core Sony Vaio
> >> > >> > > > > Submitter	: Soeren Sonnenburg <kernel@....de>
> >> > >> > > > > Date		: 2008-02-23 18:55 (51 days old)
> >> > >> > > > > References	: http://lkml.org/lkml/2008/2/23/263
> >> > >> > > > > 		  http://lkml.org/lkml/2008/4/4/41
> >> > >> > > > > 		  http://lkml.org/lkml/2008/4/9/69
> >> > >> > > > 
> >> > >> > > > Soeren said it no longer happens to him in 
> >> > >http://lkml.org/lkml/2008/4/9/53
> >> > >> > > > but unfortunately it still happens with me using -rc9. 
> >> > >So I kidnapped his 
> >> > >> > > > bugzilla report :-)
> >> > >> > > > 
> >> > >> > > > In the bugzilla entry I said earlier today that 
> >> > >"hpet=disable" apparently
> >> > >> > > > makes the problem go away (42 boots OK so far, whereas 
> >> > >without this
> >> > >> > > > boot option it hangs ~90% using vga=6 and ~10% using 
> >> > >vga=0x0364)
> >> > >> > > > 
> >> > >> > > > I tried to bisect it, but sometimes in pre 2.6.25-rc1 
> >> > >kernels it takes
> >> > >> > > > 30 boots before the first hang to occur. So bisection 
> >> > >is not reliable...
> >> > >> > > > 
> >> > >> > > > If someone proposes a patch I will be glad to test it!
> >> > >> > > > 
> >> > >> > > > PS: The similar bug in buzilla 10377 also appears 
> >to be "fixed"
> >> > >> > > > by using hpet=disable, see comment #17 in that bug.
> >> > >> > > 
> >> > >> > > 
> >> > >> > > From what Mark Lord said in his comments #33 to #35 in 
> >> > >> > > http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10117
> >> > >> > > it appears that this is a much older regression, 
> >from april 2007.
> >> > >> > > 
> >> > >> > > So this is a regression, but not from 2.6.24 
> >(although somehow
> >> > >> > > it never hit me before). I don't know about the 
> >policy of closing
> >> > >> > > regressions that come from way before the previous 
> >> > >kernel version, 
> >> > >> > > if there is any. Then I will let you manage the 
> >bugzilla #10117
> >> > >> > > as you see fit (but I will be "there" to hopefuly test any 
> >> > >> > > proposed patches).
> >> > >> > 
> >> > >> > I dropped the bug from the list of recent regressions, so 
> >> > >it doesn't block
> >> > >> > bug #9832 any more.  However, this still is a bug and 
> >> > >regression, so the
> >> > >> > bugzilla entry remains open.
> >> > >> 
> >> > >> Soerens original report was a 2.6.25 regression.
> >> > >> 
> >> > >> And #10377 that was closed as a duplicate of #10117 was also 
> >> > >reported as 
> >> > >> a 2.6.25 regression.
> >> > >> 
> >> > >> #10117 seems to suffer from the common disease of people 
> >> > >hijacking an 
> >> > >> existing bug, but Soeren's issue that was what was 
> >> > >originally tracked in 
> >> > >> #10117 is (or was) a 2.6.25 regression.
> >> > >
> >> > >Well, I'm really not 100% sure it was a regression from 2.6.24 
> >> > >and I'm not
> >> > >sure bug #10377 should have been marked as a duplicate.
> >> > >
> >> > >I made bug #10117 block bug #9832 again, but it would be nice 
> >> > >to sort this out.
> >> > >
> >> > >Why do we think that the cause of bugs #10117 and #10377 
> >is the same?
> >> > >
> >> > >Rafael
> >> > >
> >> > 
> >> > Both of them probabilistically hang early in the boot.
> >> > On both !CPUIDLE and hpet=disable seems to be working around the
> >> > problem.
> >> > Both are Core 2 Duo based with 64 bit kernel.
> >> > 
> >> > One difference I saw was that #10377 fails on battery. That may be
> >> > because when on battery CPUs may be running at lower freq 
> >during boot
> >> > and that is probably helping this problem in terms of timing.
> >> 
> >> FWIW, this macbook pro1,1 has only a core 1 duo, so x86 == 32bit...
> >
> >So I think we should leave bug #10117 to track the original 
> >issue (hangs on
> >MacBook Pro1.1 w/ Intel Core Duo x86-32), reopen bug #10377 
> >and use that
> >to track the Core 2 Duo 64-bit issues.
> >
> >Any objections to that?
> >
> 
> Last I heard from Soeren, this was not reproducable on 32 bit any more.
> All recent updates on #10117 from Carlos is on Core-2 Duo 64 bit. If the
> problem is still reproducable on 32 bit then probably having 2 bugzillas
> to track is fine with me.

I couldn't reproduce this one any longer...

Soeren
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