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Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0804221144410.21511@gandalf.stny.rr.com>
Date:	Tue, 22 Apr 2008 11:51:35 -0400 (EDT)
From:	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>
To:	Dmitry Adamushko <dmitry.adamushko@...il.com>
cc:	Gregory Haskins <ghaskins@...ell.com>, mingo@...e.hu,
	suresh.b.siddha@...el.com, chinang.ma@...el.com,
	arjan@...ux.intel.com, willy@...ux.intel.com,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-rt-users@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] sched: push rt tasks only if newly activated tasks
 have been added


Hi Dmitry,

Did you see this behaviour or is this an analysis of the code?

On Tue, 22 Apr 2008, Dmitry Adamushko wrote:
>
> consider the following 2-cpu system: cpu0 and cpu1.
>
> cpu0: is idle --> in such a state, it never pulls RT tasks on its own.
>
> T0 and T1 are RT tasks

This is the important part. How did cpu0 get to "is idle --> in such a
state, it never pulls RT tasks on its own" ? And then have cpu1 have T0
and T1 running.

When ever a cpu goes to idle, it should definitely try to do a RT pull
before going idle. When a


>
>
> square#0:
>
> cpu1:  T0 is running
>
> T1 is of the same prio as T0 (shouldn't really matter but to get the
> same result it would require altering the flow of events slightly)
>
> T1's affinity allows it to be run only on cpu1.
> T0 can run on both.
>
> try_to_wake_up() is called for T1.
> |
> --> select_task_rq_rt() => gives cpu1
> |
> --> task_wake_up_rt()
>    |
>    ---> push_rt_tasks() -> rq->rt.pushed = 1
>
> now, neither T1 (due to its affinity), nor T0 (it's running) can be
> pushed away to cpu0.

Ah, this may be what you are talking about. T0 was running, but because
T1 has its affinity set to cpu1 it wont cause a push. When T0 schedules
away to give T1 its cpu time, T0 wont push away because of the pushed
flag.

Hmm, interesting. Of course my response is "Don't use SCHED_RR! It's
evil!" ;-)

Perhaps we need logic to reset the push flag when a sched RR task is
scheduled out to give way for another SCHED_RR task. This should fix this
scenario. Unless I'm missing something else.

-- Steve

> [ btw., (1) I'd expect that this task_wake_up_rt() thing should be
> redundant, logically-wise... I'll check once more and comment later
> on.
> (2) any example when (p->prio >= rq->rt.highest_prio) is not true in
> task_wake_up_rt() ?
> ]
>
> as a result, rq->rt.pushed == 1.
>
> Now, post_schedule_rt() won't call push_rt_tasks().
>
> T0 and T1 are both running for some time on cpu1 (possibly
> context-switching if they are both of SCHED_RR type).
>
> Then they both block, _first_ T1 and then T0.
>
> After some interval of time, they wake up (let's say they are
> periodic) in the following order: _first_ T0 and then T1.
>
> rq->rt.pushed becomes 0 and here we are back to square#0. The whole
> story repeats again.
>
> cpu0 is idle so it won't pull T0. Both T0 and T1 are competing for the
> same cpu. Not good.
>
> am I missing smth?
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Dmitry Adamushko
>
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