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Date:	Sun, 27 Apr 2008 16:17:19 -0700
From:	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>
To:	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@...senPartnership.com>
CC:	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@...radead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Breakage caused by unreviewed patch in x86 tree

James Bottomley wrote:
> My major complaint is the lack of review and notice, not the actual
> patch.

[...]

> I wouldn't have picked ... I'd have asked for input.

I can't speak for anyone else, but I definitely have discussed this 
issue with a large number of people.  I can't tell you in which specific 
fora, because it usually became a very brief conversation since there 
really is only one plausible answer (*especially* in the light of the 
precedents set by other architectures.)

Ingo's mention of it on LKML in this email:

	http://lkml.org/lkml/2008/1/25/287

... is pretty typical of how the conversation usually went.

	-hpa
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