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Message-ID: <20080428210034.GE18248@uranus.ravnborg.org>
Date:	Mon, 28 Apr 2008 23:00:34 +0200
From:	Sam Ravnborg <sam@...nborg.org>
To:	Matthew Wilcox <matthew@....cx>
Cc:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@...senPartnership.com>,
	Adrian Bunk <bunk@...nel.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	linux-scsi <linux-scsi@...r.kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Greg KH <greg@...ah.com>
Subject: Re: [GIT PATCH] SCSI updates for 2.6.25

On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 02:45:11PM -0600, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 01:14:23PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > So people: stop this total *idiocy* with "select is bad". It's not. The 
> > lack of select is *much* worse.
> 
> Could we consider applying this patch then?

I applied the following.

	Sam

commit dfecbec8b54038ef02835d2f8181e1f44bd080d2
Author: Matthew Wilcox <matthew@....cx>
Date:   Sat Apr 19 14:45:11 2008 -0600

    kconifg: 'select' considered less evil
    
    While select should be used with care, it is not actually evil.
    
    Signed-off-by: Matthew Wilcox <willy@...ux.intel.com>
    Signed-off-by: Sam Ravnborg <sam@...nborg.org>

diff --git a/Documentation/kbuild/kconfig-language.txt b/Documentation/kbuild/kconfig-language.txt
index 649cb87..00b950d 100644
--- a/Documentation/kbuild/kconfig-language.txt
+++ b/Documentation/kbuild/kconfig-language.txt
@@ -104,14 +104,15 @@ applicable everywhere (see syntax).
   Reverse dependencies can only be used with boolean or tristate
   symbols.
   Note:
-	select is evil.... select will by brute force set a symbol
-	equal to 'y' without visiting the dependencies. So abusing
-	select you are able to select a symbol FOO even if FOO depends
-	on BAR that is not set. In general use select only for
-	non-visible symbols (no prompts anywhere) and for symbols with
-	no dependencies. That will limit the usefulness but on the
-	other hand avoid the illegal configurations all over. kconfig
-	should one day warn about such things.
+	select should be used with care. select will force
+	a symbol to a value without visiting the dependencies.
+	By abusing select you are able to select a symbol FOO even
+	if FOO depends on BAR that is not set.
+	In general use select only for non-visible symbols
+	(no prompts anywhere) and for symbols with no dependencies.
+	That will limit the usefulness but on the other hand avoid
+	the illegal configurations all over.
+	kconfig should one day warn about such things.
 
 - numerical ranges: "range" <symbol> <symbol> ["if" <expr>]
   This allows to limit the range of possible input values for int
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