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Message-ID: <20080430192208.GE29330@cs181133002.pp.htv.fi>
Date:	Wed, 30 Apr 2008 22:22:08 +0300
From:	Adrian Bunk <bunk@...nel.org>
To:	Helge Hafting <helge.hafting@...el.hist.no>
Cc:	Willy Tarreau <w@....eu>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...nel.org>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, trivial@...nel.org
Subject: Re: [2.6 patch] UTF-8 fixes in comments

On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 11:15:12AM +0200, Helge Hafting wrote:
> Willy Tarreau wrote:
>...
>> It's too easy to impose crappy designs to end-users and tell them that if
>> that does not work they have to file a bug. There are a minimal set of
>> things that must be tested before shipping. Seeing that the default
>> terminal emulator in KDE on Mandriva 2008 is configured in UTF-8 and does
>> not properly render it simply makes me sick. This is broken by design and
>> even distros trying to get it working for years still can't cope with it.
>> There must be a reason.
>>   
> Yeah, ascii-only is a crappy design. :-/ I don't know if mandriva is 
> broken by design - I only use debian.
> It would not surprise me if some distros  botch utf-8 through negligence.
> They are based in english-speaking countries and have their biggest
> user bases there - the majority of their customers aren't going to use  
> more than
> ascii so why should they bother. 

Mandriva is a French company.

And what Willy describes really sounds like someone fiddling with some 
settings (or something like accidentally selecting some non UTF-8 
locale).

Bad things can happen when you somehow get charsets mixed, but 
distributions default to UTF-8 for quite some time, and problems
with a 100% UTF-8 system have therefore become were unlikely.

>...
> Helge Hafting

cu
Adrian

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