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Message-ID: <86802c440805041144n6fd17b06k23d1e5d53122e21c@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 11:44:39 -0700
From: "Yinghai Lu" <yhlu.kernel@...il.com>
To: "Johannes Weiner" <hannes@...urebad.de>
Cc: "Ingo Molnar" <mingo@...e.hu>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
linux-mm@...ck.org, "Andi Kleen" <andi@...stfloor.org>,
"Andrew Morton" <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
"Linus Torvalds" <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC 0/2] Rootmem: boot-time memory allocator
On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 8:34 AM, Johannes Weiner <hannes@...urebad.de> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Johannes Weiner <hannes@...urebad.de> writes:
>
> > Hi Yinghai,
> >
> > Johannes Weiner <hannes@...urebad.de> writes:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> "Yinghai Lu" <yhlu.kernel@...il.com> writes:
> >>
> >>> On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 10:54 AM, Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> * Johannes Weiner <hannes@...urebad.de> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> > I was spending some time and work on the bootmem allocator the last
> >>>> > few weeks and came to the conclusion that its current design is not
> >>>> > appropriate anymore.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > As Ingo said in another email, NUMA technologies will become weirder,
> >>>> > nodes whose PFNs span other nodes for example and it makes bootmem
> >>>> > code become an unreadable mess.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > So I sat down two days ago and rewrote the allocator, here is the
> >>>> > result: rootmem!
> >>>>
> >>>> hehe :-)
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> > The biggest difference to the old design is that there is only one
> >>>> > bitmap for all PFNs of all nodes together, so the overlapping PFN
> >>>> > problems simply dissolve and fun like allocations crossing node
> >>>> > boundaries work implicitely. The new API requires every node used by
> >>>> > the allocator to be registered and after that the bitmap gets
> >>>> > allocated and the allocator enabled.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > I chose to add a new allocator rather than replacing bootmem at once
> >>>> > because that would have required all callsites to switch in one go,
> >>>> > which would be a lot. The new allocator can be adopted more slowly
> >>>> > and I added a compatibility API for everything besides actually
> >>>> > setting up the allocator. When the last user dies, bootmem can be
> >>>> > dropped completely (including pgdat->bdata, whee..)
> >>>> >
> >>>> > The main ideas from bootmem have been stolen^W preserved but the new
> >>>> > design allowed me to shrink the code a lot and express things more
> >>>> > simple and clear:
> >>>> >
> >>>> > $ sloc.awk < mm/bootmem.c
> >>>> > 455 lines of code, 65 lines of comments (520 lines total)
> >>>> >
> >>>> > $ sloc.awk < mm/rootmem.c
> >>>> > 243 lines of code, 96 lines of comments (339 lines total)
> >>>>
> >>>> amazing!
> >>>>
> >>>> i'd still suggest to keep it all named bootmem though :-/ How about
> >>>> bootmem2.c and then renaming it back to bootmem.c, once the last user is
> >>>> gone? That would save people from having to rename whole chapters in
> >>>> entire books ;-)
> >>>
> >>> for spanning support node0:0-2g, 4-6g; node1: 2-4g, 6-8g, could have
> >>> some problem.
> >>
> >> Could you eleborate on that?
> >>
> >>> +/*
> >>> + * rootmem_register_node - register a node to rootmem
> >>> + * @nid: node id
> >>> + * @start: first pfn on the node
> >>> + * @end: first pfn after the node
> >>> + *
> >>> + * This function must not be called anymore if the allocator
> >>> + * is already up and running (rootmem_setup() has been called).
> >>> + */
> >>> +void __init rootmem_register_node(int nid, unsigned long start,
> >>> + unsigned long end)
> >>> +{
> >>> + BUG_ON(rootmem_functional);
> >>> +
> >>> + if (start < rootmem_min_pfn)
> >>> + rootmem_min_pfn = start;
> >>> + if (end > rootmem_max_pfn)
> >>> + rootmem_max_pfn = end;
> >>> +
> >>> + rootmem_node_pages[nid] = end - start;
> >>> + rootmem_node_offsets[nid] = start;
> >>> + rootmem_nr_nodes++;
> >>> +}
> >>>
> >>> could change rootmem_node_pages/offsets to be struct array with
> >>> offset, pages, and nid. and every node could several struct. and whole
> >>> array should be sorted with nid.
>
> In the long term, this would have to be implemented no matter if
> rootmem/bootmem2 gets merged or not, because bootmem suffers the same
> problem, right?
>
>
> >> The whole point is to be agnostic about weird NUMA configs. Right now,
> >> I am pretty proud of the simple data structures and I would avoid
> >> blowing them up again unless there is a hard reason to do so.
>
> This is non-helping crap, please excuse me.
>
>
> > One thing I have found is that __rootmem_alloc_node can not garuantee
> > that the memory it returns is on the requested node right now.
>
> Hm, we have two choices: Either we introduce a new API that requests the
> arch code to register not only node ranges but also subranges on that
> node, or we won't garuantee that you get all memory on the node you
> specified. Correct?
>
> The first option would be what you have proposed, I think.
1. current bootmem, add not_used_map to bdata.
2. or in bootmem2, use pages_offset struct for every range... so one
node could have several ranges.
YH
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