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Message-ID: <20080514000702.GA12546@us.ibm.com>
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 17:07:02 -0700
From: Gary Hade <garyhade@...ibm.com>
To: Yinghai Lu <yhlu.kernel@...il.com>
Cc: Jesse Barnes <jbarnes@...tuousgeek.org>,
Gary Hade <garyhade@...ibm.com>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
linux-pci@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] PCI: boot parameter to avoid expansion ROM memory allocation
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 04:23:55PM -0700, Yinghai Lu wrote:
> On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 3:28 PM, Jesse Barnes <jbarnes@...tuousgeek.org> wrote:
> > > > There were some lkml/linux-pci visible discussions back in
> > > > November-December of last year where I floated the idea
> > > > of making PCI expansion ROM memory non-assignment the default:
> > > > http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=119742188215024&w=2
> > > > http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=119689499508369&w=2
> > > > I did not hear any objections so I went ahead and submitted
> > > > the change which entered mainline at 2.6.25-rc1 but it was
> > > > sternly evicted last week because of a reported regression
> > > > that it had caused:
> > > > http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=121029093331908&w=2
> > > > Attachments to http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15523
> > > > indicate that a 2.6.25-rc2 x86_64 kernel was being used.
> > > >
> > > > > can we use pci rom in 64 bit kernel?
> > > >
> > > > Sorry, not sure if I understand this question. I hope the
> > > > above answers it.
> > >
> > > ok, i think the driver could reload fw in the option rom to reset the
> > > controlller in pci card.
> > > i don't think there is other usage for the option rom after OS loaded,
> > > except option rom contain other run-time code...
> >
> > On graphics devices it's used for more than just POSTing (in fact POSTing is
> > the least of its uses these days). The ROM often contains tables describing
> > the specific hardware configuration of a given board, including output
> > information, extra supported modes, etc.
> >
> > On other devices, it can be used to store default settings (this is common for
> > SCSI cards iirc, though I'm not sure how much Linux drivers use this info).
> >
> >
> > > so could disable them all, and use pci-quirks to enable that for the
> > > device/driver need it.
> >
> > Since it's probably only big systems that really need the extra address space,
> > I'd rather to the opposite: allocate ROM space by default and let a boot
> > option avoid it.
>
> that boot option will get rid of that ROM BAR for all devices...
> big system could use several graphical cards that need ROM BAR and
> several cards that don't need ROM BAR.
Correct, not a perfect solution but better than we have right now.
Gary
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