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Message-ID: <4832189B.8000602@zytor.com>
Date:	Mon, 19 May 2008 17:17:31 -0700
From:	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>
To:	Adrian Bunk <bunk@...nel.org>
CC:	Harvey Harrison <harvey.harrison@...il.com>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [2.6 patch] asm-generic/int-ll64.h: always provide __{s,u}64

Adrian Bunk wrote:
> On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 04:51:53PM -0700, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
>> Adrian Bunk wrote:
>>>> If it is going to be unconditionally offered, we could get rid of
>>>> __BYTEORDER_HAS_U64__ as a next step.  Unless there is something I've
>>>> missed.
>>> Why do we need the byteorder headers in userspace at all?
>>>
>> Because Linux-specific software has depended on them for over 15 years  
>> (they are a much better API than anything POSIX provides.)  We can't  
>> just yank them, and so it's better if they actually work.
>>
>> Yes, you can argue it should be glibc's job to provide them, but well,  
>> why duplicate work when we already have a nicely working set.
> 
> The worst thing is how many CONFIG_'s they currently leak to userspace.
> 
> And e.g. the versions in the x86 header are therefore not the fastest 
> ones (unless the userspace software #define's CONFIG_X86_BSWAP)...
> 

This is a valid point.  This should be __i486__ for userspace, which is 
gcc's way to tell you if you're compiling with -march=i486.

	-hpa
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