linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH 0/4] (RESEND) ext3[34] barrier changes

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Message-Id: <200805211540.36276.chris.mason@oracle.com>
Date:	Wed, 21 May 2008 15:40:35 -0400
From:	Chris Mason <chris.mason@...cle.com>
To:	Jamie Lokier <jamie@...reable.org>
Cc:	Theodore Tso <tytso@....edu>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Pavel Machek <pavel@...e.cz>,
	Eric Sandeen <sandeen@...hat.com>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@...stfloor.org>, linux-ext4@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] (RESEND) ext3[34] barrier changes

On Wednesday 21 May 2008, Jamie Lokier wrote:
> Theodore Tso wrote:
> > On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 11:03:24AM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > > afaik there is no need to enable this feature if the machine (actually
> > > the disks) are on a UPS, yes?
> >
> > Yes, as long as you're confident that there won't be a kernel
> > bug/regression causing a lockup while the server is under severe
> > memory pressure while doing lots of fsync's, file creations, renames,
> > etc.  And as long as your 100% confident that UPS's will never fail,
> > janitors will never accidentally hit the Emergency Power Office
>
> Can a kernel lockup cause this kind of corruption?

No

>
> Will a system reboot wipe the disk's write cache?
>

Only if you reboot with the power switch (some test rigs do)

> I had imagined only power loss would prevent the disk from
> writing it's cache eventually; is that wrong?
>

-chris
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