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Message-ID: <20080521235528.GD16376@cs181133002.pp.htv.fi>
Date:	Thu, 22 May 2008 02:55:28 +0300
From:	Adrian Bunk <bunk@...nel.org>
To:	Rene Herman <rene.herman@...access.nl>
Cc:	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@...il.com>, tytso@....edu,
	hch@...radead.org, viro@...IV.linux.org.uk,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, davem@...emloft.net
Subject: Re: CFD: linux-wanking@...r.kernel.org (was [PATCH] Standard
	indentation of arguments)

On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 01:17:36AM +0200, Rene Herman wrote:
> On 22-05-08 01:01, Adrian Bunk wrote:
>
>> Offering any serious mentoring for newbies will only keep developers  
>> busy who could otherwise do things that would bring more value to the  
>> kernel.
>
> There is the question of exactly how long you'd like this project to  
> survive though (in a vibrant form).
>
> Remarked elsewhere recently that a downside of the new development model  
> seems to be missing opportunity for new editions of books with "all new!  
> covers 2.8!" blurps on the cover.
>
> That is, not seeing quality documentation emerge, not seeing mentoring  
> from experienced developers... -- where and how do you want the new  
> developers to come from? If only from business linux as a community  
> thing is as dead as when you'd just close shop.

We are drowning in new code, and our biggest problem is to get it 
properly integrated.

We don't have any shortage in the sheer number of people, and it doesn't
seem we'll ever have.

And we have many newbies who come and find themselves areas for useful 
contributions.

> Rene.

cu
Adrian

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