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Message-ID: <20080522082941.5431654b@infradead.org>
Date:	Thu, 22 May 2008 08:29:41 -0700
From:	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@...radead.org>
To:	Adrian Bunk <bunk@...nel.org>
Cc:	Jesper Juhl <jesper.juhl@...il.com>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@....net>,
	Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@...il.com>, rdunlap@...otime.net,
	tytso@....edu, hch@...radead.org, viro@...iv.linux.org.uk,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, davem@...emloft.net,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: CFD: linux-wanking@...r.kernel.org (was [PATCH] Standard
 indentation of arguments)

On Thu, 22 May 2008 03:12:33 +0300
Adrian Bunk <bunk@...nel.org> wrote:

> On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 01:46:28AM +0200, Jesper Juhl wrote:
> >...
> > 2. How to find things to work on as a beginner
> >...
> > Finding bugs to fix is easy. Here are some ways to find useful work
> > to do:
> >...
> 
> But fixing them is not so easy...

math is hard, lets go shopping  -- Barbie

> 
> Sorry for being destructive, but we do not have easy coding tasks 
> for newbies.

Sorry but if it's too easy, you don't learn from it. If it's not a
challenge .... you're going to get stuck and never really learn.

> 
> If it's easy it's already fixed, and dozens of people following your 
> advice to look at e.g. compile or sparse warnings will only generate 
> much noise, but they'll have a hard time finding anything they are 
> capable to fix.

If they only go where they are already capable.. no gain for anyone.
A bug can be a challenge, and need a lot of learning and investigating.
And that's *FINE*. That's what you learn from. Not from the actual fix
itself.

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