linux-kernel - Re: Number of bugs

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Message-ID: <s5hzlqht4nb.wl%tiwai@suse.de>
Date:	Fri, 23 May 2008 17:35:20 +0200
From:	Takashi Iwai <tiwai@...e.de>
To:	James Courtier-Dutton <James@...erbug.co.uk>
Cc:	Adrian Bunk <bunk@...nel.org>,
	Natalie Protasevich <protasnb@...il.com>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@...radead.org>,
	Bosko Radivojevic <bosko.radivojevic@...il.com>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Number of bugs - statistics

At Fri, 23 May 2008 13:35:03 +0300,
James Courtier-Dutton wrote:
> 
> Adrian Bunk wrote:
> > On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 09:20:46AM -0700, Natalie Protasevich wrote:
> >   
> >> On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 8:54 AM, Adrian Bunk <bunk@...nel.org> wrote:
> >>     
> >>> Andrew sees and handles the majority of incoming bug reports.
> >>> Ask him whether he agress with this.
> >>>
> >>> And ALSA alone has 2000 open bug reports, which makes the open ACPI or
> >>> SCSI bug numbers relatively irrelevant in any "number of bugs"
> >>> statistics.
> >>>
> >>>       
> > Not everyone uses Bugzilla (e.g. ALSA uses Mantis).
> >
> > And the majority of bug reports might still go only to mailing lists and 
> > not into any bugtracker at all. As long as this happens the data is 
> > simply not available.
> >
> >   
> >> by various criteria: ALSA bugs
> >> are numerous, which is not important for most enterprise server users
> >> who would completely disregard this category, whereas desktop users
> >> will probably concentrate on those more than any other.
> >>     
> >
> >   
> Although ALSA might have a lot of bug reports. Any bugs that affect 
> kernel stability are fixed quickly.
> The rest of the ALSA bugs are more along the lines of "This feature on 
> this particular sound card variant does not seem to work". This 
> generally implies un-implemented features that uses now want. Some times 
> the fix is simply adding that variant to the quirks list and finding out 
> which quirk should be applied.
> So, once one removes the "un-implemented features" category from the 
> ALSA bug list, one would expect the remaining number to be low.

... and a normal screening would reduce the amount of bugs to 1/4, I
guess.  But, we have a serious problem regarding man power in this
area, unfortunately.


Takashi
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