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Message-ID: <20080527102654.GB20938@cs181133002.pp.htv.fi>
Date:	Tue, 27 May 2008 13:26:54 +0300
From:	Adrian Bunk <bunk@...nel.org>
To:	Mike Galbraith <efault@....de>
Cc:	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@...llo.nl>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC: 2.6 patch] let GROUP_SCHED depend on BROKEN

On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 11:47:38AM +0200, Mike Galbraith wrote:
>...
> <quote>
> config EXPERIMENTAL
> 	bool "Prompt for non-development and/or absolutely complete code/drivers"
 	---help---
> 	  Some of the various things that Linux supports (such as network
> 	  drivers, file systems, network protocols, etc.) can be in a state
> 	  of development where the functionality, stability, or the level of
> 	  testing is not yet high enough for general use. This is usually
> 	  known as the "alpha-test" phase among developers. If a feature is
> 	  currently in alpha-test, then the developers usually discourage
> 	  uninformed widespread use of this feature by the general public to
> 	  avoid "Why doesn't this work?" type mail messages. However, active
> 	  testing and use of these systems is welcomed. Just be aware that it
>...

If you take this text seriously then companies like Redhat advertise 
their enterprise distributions with alpha-test quality software...

Facts are:
- as long as we allow hardware drivers to depend on EXPERIMENTAL we
  force many users to enable EXPERIMENTAL
- the EXPERIMENTAL dependencies in many areas of the kernel are so
  out of sync with the actual code quality that the presence or absence
  of such a dependency isn't a clear indication of the current status

> 	-Mike

cu
Adrian

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