linux-kernel - Re: [Ksummit-2008-discuss] Fixing the Kernel Janitors project

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Message-Id: <1212041839.8888.38.camel@pasglop>
Date:	Thu, 29 May 2008 16:17:19 +1000
From:	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@...nel.crashing.org>
To:	David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>
Cc:	James.Bottomley@...senPartnership.com,
	ksummit-2008-discuss@...ts.linux-foundation.org,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-2008-discuss] Fixing the Kernel Janitors project

On Wed, 2008-05-28 at 22:58 -0700, David Miller wrote:
> From: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@...senPartnership.com>
> Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 12:20:12 -0500
> 
> > In the spirit of having a more process than technical based kernel
> > summit, I'd like to put the topic of the kernel Janitors project up for
> > discussion.
> 
> Not to distract from your points, but I think it's been a huge
> mistake to not allow folks to work hard on technical issues
> during the summit.

Having been stopped a couple of times last year when trying to bring
some technical subjects for the reason that they were "off topic, KS is
for process" I tend to agree :-)

There are some things that are hard to get through the list, or even
IRC, such as wanting to reorganize some part of the core and wanting to
get "live" input and discussion with most arch maintainers.

In my case it was some rework on some of the page table batching, for
which I finally didn't finish the work as I'm not too happy with what I
came up with, but I'm still somewhat convinced there's something to do
there and I could use a bit of a group beat-up in a room.

There are other areas like that which would benefit from that kind of
hard core tech discussion face to face.

However, on the other hand, KS is only 2 days, which doesn't leave room
for that much stuff. And I don't think splitting into sub-groups or
mini-summits is necessarily the answers. There are some areas where it's
useful to do the tech beatup -with- everybody in the room.

Just my 2 cents... Maybe we need 2 summits, the process one and the tech
one ? :-)

Cheers,
Ben.

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