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Date:	Fri, 30 May 2008 11:36:20 +0200
From:	Jes Sorensen <jes@....com>
To:	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@...senPartnership.com>
CC:	Roland Dreier <rdreier@...co.com>, benh@...nel.crashing.org,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@...radead.org>,
	linux-arch@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	tpiepho@...escale.com, linuxppc-dev@...abs.org,
	scottwood@...escale.com, torvalds@...ux-foundation.org,
	David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>, alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk,
	Jeremy Higdon <jeremy@....com>
Subject: Re: MMIO and gcc re-ordering issue

James Bottomley wrote:
>> The only way to guarantee ordering in the above setup, is to either
>> make writel() fully ordered or adding the mmiowb()'s inbetween the two
>> writel's. On Altix you have to go and read from the PCI brige to
>> ensure all writes to it have been flushed, which is also what mmiowb()
>> is doing. If writel() was to guarantee this ordering, it would make
>> every writel() call extremely expensive :-(
> 
> So if a read from the bridge achieves the same effect, can't we just put
> one after the writes within the spinlock (an unrelaxed one).  That way
> this whole sequence will look like a well understood PCI posting flush
> rather than have to muck around with little understood (at least by most
> driver writers) io barriers?

Hmmm,

I think mmiowb() does some sort of status read from the bridge, I am not
sure if it's enough to just do a regular readl().

I'm adding Jeremy to the list, he should know for sure.

Cheers,
Jes

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