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Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 21:22:30 +0200
From: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@...redi.hu>
To: mtk.manpages@...glemail.com
CC: miklos@...redi.hu, drepper@...hat.com, viro@...iv.linux.org.uk,
akpm@...ux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
linux-man@...r.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] utimensat() non-conformances and fixes [v3]
> >> Here's a further version of the patch, against 2.6.26rc2, with the
> >> 2008-05-19 git changes you sent me applied. This patch is based on
> >> the draft patch you sent me. I've tested this version of the patch,
> >> and it works as for all cases except the one mentioned below. But
> >> note the following points:
> >>
> >> 1) I didn't make use of the code in notify_change() that checks
> >> IS_IMMUTABLE() and IS_APPEND() (i.e., I did not add
> >> ATTR_OWNER_CHECK to the mask in the controlling if statement).
> >> Doing this can't easily be made to work for the
> >> do_futimes() case without reworking the arguments passed to
> >> notify_change(). Actually, I'm inclined to doubt whether it
> >> is a good idea to try to roll that check into notify_change() --
> >> at least for utimensat() it seems simpler to not do so.
> >
> > Ugh... Could we just omit this part (the if !times and write error
> > then check owner)? I know it was my idea, but
> >
> > a) my ideas are often stupid
> > b) one patch should ideally do just one thing
> >
> > After we fixed the original issue, we can still think about this other
> > thing :)
>
> Okay, by now quite a bit of my time has been wasted, and my patience
> is starting to get a little thin.
I understand your frustration, but actually I did say this the last
time as well:
"Sorry, that was just an idea, but since it's not as simple as it
should be, I guess we should leave that till later. My main
objection was against introducing more is_owner_or_cap() checks.
Just doing the times == NULL case with ATTR_OWNER_CHECK should be
fine."
Yeah, I may have been more explicit...
> The relevant interfaces here are:
>
> utimensat()
> futimesat()
> utime()
> utimes()
> futimens() -- because implemented in glibc via utimensat() with path==NULL.
>
> * utime() and utimes() can't be affected by this point: they don't use
> file descriptors.
OK, you're right. I've overlooked this point.
So as long as we believe that nobody is using the futime*() interfaces
in the way you described, which is highly probable, then we can fix
that as well. Which is actually a nice thing, because it means the
permission checking for the times == NULL case can move from both
do_utimes_name() and do_futimes() into utimes_common().
So let's make two patches, and let's forget about the write_error
thing for now:
1)
- turn UTIME_NOW/UTIME_NOW into times = NULL
- for times != NULL set ATTR_OWNER_CHECK
2)
- move times == NULL permission check into utimes_common.
For 2) you can just use permission() instead of vfs_permission() which
is exactly the same in this case (and consolidated into a common
function later in the vfs-cleanups tree).
OK?
Thanks,
Miklos
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