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Message-ID: <18502.19722.944016.374271@harpo.it.uu.se>
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 10:06:34 +0200
From: Mikael Pettersson <mikpe@...uu.se>
To: David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>
Cc: airlied@...il.com, mikpe@...uu.se, sparclinux@...r.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [BUG] 2.6.26-rc1 broke X on SPARC Ultra5
David Miller writes:
> From: "Dave Airlie" <airlied@...il.com>
> Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 06:45:57 +1000
>
> > Wow thats a major userspace regression to ship, we'd never get away
> > with doing that on x86 platforms.
>
> x86 has how many maintainers and contributors last time you checked?
>
> Meanwhile X itself shipped mostly-non-working for PCI devices on sparc
> for years. And would you also not argue that it's broken to begin
> with that the older X servers cannot work properly without a root PCI
> controller being there?
>
> The only way I can work around this issue is to provide a virtual host
> bridge driver in the kernel, and I tried to do that, but it doesn't
> work which is why the change got installed that did.
>
> We'd need this because on many sparc64 machines the PCI host bridge
> (and some sub-bridges) aren't even accessible via PCI config space.
>
> If you provide a virtual host bridge, you have to emulate all of
> the PCI config space accesses, you have to provide the expected
> linkage and hierarchy with the rest of the PCI devices, and you
> also have to do all of the I/O and MEM space range bits correctly
> too.
>
> For PCI-E and sub-bridges this becomes even more complicated, and
> frankly a waste of time.
>
> In short you have to implement an entire non-trivial emulation layer
> for this stuff.
>
> I'm the only sparc64 platform developer, so my time is better spent
> moving forward and making sure that libpciaccess based X servers
> aren't so broken and do the right thing in a way which works in a
> maintainable long term manner.
Indeed. You need to prioritize, and FWIW I support your decision.
/Mikael
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