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Message-Id: <20080608163926.56f1be3d.akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Date:	Sun, 8 Jun 2008 16:39:26 -0700
From:	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>
To:	Andrew Morgan <morgan@...nel.org>
Cc:	Dmitry Adamushko <dmitry.adamushko@...il.com>,
	"Serge E. Hallyn" <serue@...ibm.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [ linus-git ] prctl(PR_SET_KEEPCAPS, ...) is broken for some
 configs, e.g. CONFIG_SECURITY_SELINUX

On Sun, 08 Jun 2008 15:34:44 -0700 Andrew Morgan <morgan@...nel.org> wrote:

> | On Sun, 08 Jun 2008 08:10:26 -0700 Andrew Morgan <morgan@...nel.org>
> wrote:
> |
> |> Nacked-by: Andrew G. Morgan <morgan@...nel.org>
> |>
> |> In a configuration in which you are not using capabilities, what is the
> |> "keep capabilities" operation supposed to do? Lie to you?
> |>
> |> http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10748
> |
> | I totally agree with comment 11 there. Quite a number of people have
> already
> | hit this and more surely will.  How can we help them (and hence us)?
>
> What do people think about comment #8 from Stephen Smalley?:
> 
> The dummy module is generally in the untenable position of having to lie
> to userspace or break the existing capability-related system call
> interface.  It should just go away, and make capability the default
> module (w/ stubs for the rest of the LSM hooks as with dummy).  Then
> CONFIG_SECURITY=n will yield the same result as CONFIG_SECURITY=y w/o
> any further options.

(removed pgp crap, undid top-posting.  Your emails are very hard to reply to)

It's a fine comment, but I am not knowledgeable enough in this area to
say whether it's a desirable thing to do for 2.6.26.

I fear that nothing will happen, and we'll end up wasting a lot of
peoples' time sending hey-why-did-my-dhcp-break reports.

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