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Message-ID: <20080616223402.6ad2365c@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Date:	Mon, 16 Jun 2008 22:34:02 +0100
From:	Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>
To:	Jeff Garzik <jeff@...zik.org>
Cc:	David Woodhouse <dwmw2@...radead.org>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, jaswinder@...radead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ip2: use request_firmware()

O> This separation certainly does not make things _easier_ for users, our 
> reason for existence.  This separation certainly does not make it easier 
> to drop in a driver with a firmware, i.e. not easier on driver 
> developers.  It is one more PITA detail when copying a driver from one 
> kernel to another, or shipping the driver out of tree.

Users run distributions. The user picture is "I installed it, it worked".

> There are good reasons why the Makefile rules, Kconfig rules, C source 
> code and headers for a driver all live together...  moving the firmware 

But they don't. Half the headers are in include/, random bits of glue are
scattered around the scripts dir.

> I like the goal, but see little effort in the area of "make this 
> transition painless for users."

I think we need to think about "for the technically competent and distro
builders". I don't see any connection between the choice of firmware
source directory and users at all. They typed make, magic occurred.

Alan
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