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Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0806251319120.9483@vixen.sonytel.be>
Date:	Wed, 25 Jun 2008 13:20:16 +0200 (CEST)
From:	Geert Uytterhoeven <Geert.Uytterhoeven@...ycom.com>
To:	Harvey Harrison <harvey.harrison@...il.com>
cc:	Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: byteorder helpers and void * (was: Re: [PATCH 01/21] lib: add
 byteorder helpers for the aligned case)

On Tue, 24 Jun 2008, Harvey Harrison wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-06-24 at 14:54 +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> > > Document the fact that void * passed in needs to be 16-bit aligned?
> > 
> > Why not let it just take a __le16 *? Because in many use-cases the pointer just
> > points to an array of bytes?
> > 
> > For the unaligned case, e.g. get_unaligned_le16(), I can understand a bit the
> > rationale about using void * (a typical use-case is accessing a little endian
> > 16-bit value in the middle of an arrays of bytes).
> > 
> > However, a disadvantage is that you remove the ability of the compiler to check
> > for using the wrong accessor in a (packed for the unaligned case) struct, e.g.
> > 
> >     struct {
> > 	u8 pad;
> > 	__le16 val;			/* 16-bit value */
> >     } __attribute ((packed)) s;
> > 
> >     x = get_unaligned_le32(&s.val);	/* oops, 32-bit access */
> > 
> 
> I'm starting to come around to the typechecking argument.  This would
> also be a chance to fix the argument ordering in put_analigned_XXXX
> that was noticed by others.  As there are already some existing users
> in-tree, we could transition gradually by:
> 
> 1) Introduce typed versions of get/put_unaligned_XXXX, that implies the
> byteswap better:
> u16 load_unaligned_le16(__le16 *)
> void store_unaligned_le16(__le16 *, u16)

OK

> Then the aligned helpers could be:
> le16_to_cpup -> aligned equivalent of load_unaligned_le16
> store_le16(__le16 *, u16)
> 
> Implemented as (to allow constant folding)
> #define store_le16(ptr, val)	(*(__le16 *)(ptr) = cpu_to_le16((u16)(val)))

Again, no typechecking in store_le16(), due to the explicit cast.

> > I noticed there's also a __get_unaligned_le(), which uses compile-time
> > detection of the pointer time, to make sure the correct accessor is used.
> > Do you intend this to be used by generic code? It's function name starts
> > with double underscore, indicating otherwise.
> 
> It is not meant for generic use, it is just there as a helper for each
> arch to wire up it's get_unaligned() macro depending on its endianness,
> so each arch doesn't wire up its own version that may or may not have
> the size checking.

With kind regards,

Geert Uytterhoeven
Software Architect

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