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Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 09:58:28 +0200
From: "Alexander van Heukelum" <heukelum@...tmail.fm>
To: "Linus Torvalds" <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
"Johannes Berg" <johannes@...solutions.net>
Cc: "Paul Jackson" <pj@....com>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>,
yhlu.kernel@...il.com, "Andrew Morton" <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
"Ingo Molnar" <mingo@...e.hu>,
"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@...utronix.de>, steiner@....com,
travis@....com, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, ying.huang@...el.com,
"Andi Kleen" <andi@...stfloor.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/5 v2] x86 boot: show pfn addresses in hex not decimal in
some kernel info printks
On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 08:19:13 -0700 (PDT), "Linus Torvalds"
<torvalds@...ux-foundation.org> said:
> On Wed, 25 Jun 2008, Johannes Berg wrote:
> >
> > In networking, we've gone through various incarnations of print_mac()
> > which is similar to the sym() macro Paul proposed, and it turned out to
> > be undesirable because of the way it interacts with static inlines that
> > only optionally contain code at all, the print_mac() function call is
> > still emitted by the compiler. People experimented with marking it
> > __pure but that had other problems.
>
> You don't even have to go that esoteric.
>
> Just printing things like "sector_t" or "u64" is painful, because the
> exact type depends on config options and/or architecture.
>
> > It would be nice to be able to say
> >
> > u8 *eaddr;
> >
> > printk(... %M ..., eaddr);
>
> For special things, I do think we should extend the format more, and
> forget about single-character names. It would be lovely to do them as
> %[mac], %[u64], %[symbol] or similar. Because once you don't rely on gcc
> checking the string, you can do it.
That would confuse the gcc format string checking... A solution that
just crossed my mind is leaving the format string as is (i.e., "%p"),
but prepending it with a special linux-specific string which does not
confuse gcc. Like: "&mac%p"... for simplicity & can be considered always
special in printk, and && can stand for a literal &. (or pick any
other character that is not used frequently in format strings and is
not %, of course.)
> The problem is that right now we absolutely _do_ rely on gcc checking the
> string, and as such we're forced to use standard patterns, and standard
> patterns _only_. And that means that %M isn't an option, but also that if
> we want symbolic names we'd have to use %p, and not some extension.
"&%p" could then be used for a symbol-lookup.
It doesn't help u64, though, but isn't it about time to unify u64 to
"unsigned long long" everywhere, anyhow? Is there any argument against
that except that a big sweep is necessary to clean up new warnings due
to printk format strings?
Greetings,
Alexander
> But once you drop the 'standard patterns' requirement, I do think you
> should drop it _entirely_, and not just extend it with some pissant
> single-character unreadable mess.
>
> Linus
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