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Message-ID: <486A6171.5050909@sgi.com>
Date:	Tue, 01 Jul 2008 09:55:13 -0700
From:	Mike Travis <travis@....com>
To:	Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@...p.org>
CC:	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@...ssion.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>,
	Christoph Lameter <clameter@....com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [crash, bisected] Re: [PATCH 3/4] x86_64: Fold pda into per cpu
 area

Jeremy Fitzhardinge wrote:
> Eric W. Biederman wrote:
>> Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@...p.org> writes:
>>
>>  
>>> No, the original crash being discussed was a GP fault in head_64.S as
>>> it tries
>>> to initialize the kernel segments.  The cause was that the prototype
>>> GDT is all
>>> zero, even though it's an initialized variable, and inspection of
>>> vmlinux shows
>>> that it has the right contents.  But somehow it's either 1) getting
>>> zeroed on
>>> load, or 2) is loaded to the wrong place.
>>>
>>> The zero-based PDA mechanism requires the introduction of a new ELF
>>> segment
>>> based at vaddr 0 which is sufficiently unusual that it wouldn't
>>> surprise me if
>>> its triggering some toolchain bug.
>>>     
>>
>> Agreed.  Given the previous description my hunch is that the bug is
>> occurring
>> during objcopy.  If vmlinux is good and the compressed kernel is bad.
>>
>> It should be possible to look at vmlinux.bin and see if that was
>> generated
>> properly.
>>
>>  
>>> Mike: what would happen if the PDA were based at 4k rather than 0? 
>>> The stack
>>> canary would still be at its small offset (0x20?), but it doesn't
>>> need to be
>>> initialized.  I'm not sure if doing so would fix anything, however.
>>>     
>>
>> I'm dense today.  Why are we doing a zero based pda?  That seems the most
>> likely culprit of linker trouble, and we should be able to  put a smaller
>> offset in the segment register to allow for everything to work as
>> expected.
>>   
> 
> The only reason we need to do a zero-based PDA is because of the
> boneheaded gcc/x86_64 ABI decision to put the stack canary at a fixed
> offset from %gs (all they had to do was define it as a weak symbol we
> could override).  If we want to support stack-protector and unify the
> handling of per-cpu variables, we need to rebase the per-cpu area at
> zero, starting with the PDA.
> 
> My own inclination would be to drop stack-protector support until gcc
> gets fixed, rather than letting it prevent us from unifying an area
> which is in need of unification...
> 
>    J

I might be inclined to agree except most of the past few months of
finding problems caused by NR_CPUS=4096 has been stack overflow.  So
any help detecting this condition is very useful.  I can get static
stacksizes (of course), but there's not a lot of help determining
call chains except via actually executing the code.

Thanks,
Mike
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